Phish Festival: Save The Date

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  1. why has no one mentioned that it looks like a jack o lantern?

    and they are going to play all of their albums for Halloween

  2. wow. just wow.

    Why is Indio such a foregone conclusion? It seems like Vegas, Big Cypress, or even the Bonnaroo grounds could also be somewhat viable.

    either way I’m bouncing off the walls right now.

  3. readicculous,

    Because many people who know much more than you or I have said so. I will be shocked if it’s not in Indio, CA.

  4. My best friend’s sister’s boyfriend’s brother’s girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who’s going with the girl who saw Phish 31 Flavors last night. I guess it’s pretty serious.

  5. Come on… Limestone Limestone Limestone… Think Limestone! My VW bus cannot make it to CA!

    I’d take WV though in a pinch.

    If it is held on the west coast y’all have a veggie burrito for me…

  6. I dont think trey could handle the vocal aspect of performing thriller live. I mean cmon lets be serious.

  7. Does anyone remember that ten years ago we all dropped items into a time capsule at big cypress?

  8. no way on burlington, no matter how much we love phish ~~ and it’s serious~~ we love burlington more and would never… ever halloween it… unless possibly we finally build a venue large enough to hold it…

  9. wow. i wish i wasnt a broke-ass. they have never played a three day festival, unless they are only playing two out of the three…. how about a non-classic rock album? ive always wanted the boys to phishify some Sonic Youth, or some other modern psychedelia.

  10. Vegas, baby. No musical costume, though. Phish will play their new album, joy, cover to cover.

  11. Phish fan–hacked thread into phish homepage flashsite revealed NM, NV, TN, CO, PA eliminated from possible states, in addition to NH, ID, WV, OK,

    It will be in either TX, CA, FL

  12. My prediction, (yea i know, its a long shot but one can dream) Deerfields outside Asheville, NC.

    And I like the sound of The Piper at the Gates of Dawn as The Third Wheel suggested (one of my all time favs) but considering MJ’s passing, it will probably be one of his.

  13. no way will it be an outdoor festival in the northeast at the end of october…that’s all i know FOR SURE…i’m thinking that they may actually cover an album each night…the “Sticky Fingers” call has forced my head to dance with visions of them playing the greatest triumverate of studio albums by ANY band EVER>>>>”Beggars Banquet”, “Let it Bleed” & “Sticky Fingers”…maaaaaaaaaan, that would be something….aaahhhhh, a man can dream, can’t he???

  14. I firmly believe that their Limestone festivals have been amazing, and it has been a favoured venue for the boys. Bring ’em back! It’s not THAT cold up here on Halloween.. Besides, aren’t Heads rugged folk? As for the album.. Bitches Brew… hahaha

  15. Don’t care where it is, just glad they are putting together a halloween run. it would be heady if they played their new album, but they have been doing it here and there all tour. it would still be great to hear it in order. michael jackson album would be nice, as well as pink floyd, they could cover led zeppelin 1 or 2, but who knows, i will def be there and can’t wait to find out. going to red rocks, hopefully they bust out a mj tune, like beat it, to remember him, trey teased black or white and beat it nebraska 95.

  16. definitely a terribly kept secret…a lot of us knew about this a few weeks back. all the same, it’ll be one fine 3 days. i’d love to see them do something from Zappa…maybe one size fits all or hot rats…joe’s garage would be fun as well. although the stones’ sticky fingers or exile on main st. would be sure to please!

  17. I can’t get too excited. I got shut out of the entire summer tour…being as I simply refuse to pay scalpers for tickets. Just wondering what percentage of these tickets will end up on e-bay, stubhub or tickets now? Not meaning to whine, but it really sucks when your favorite live act hits the road and you try every avenue and follow every rule and get one hundred percent rejected-except of course from the fine folks at scalpers’R’us. I am really trying to keep the faith and cross my fingers that when I mail order(or whatever method they use this time)that I actually get tickets and not a polite little “I’m sorry” form letter.

  18. I saw it yesterday and New Hampshire was also blacked out, but now it is yellow. If I had to guess, I would say that it was between NH, WV, ID, and OK, and the last one to remain blacked out is the one in which the festival will be held.

  19. You’re all wrong they’re gonna play “The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars!” It’s a perfect costume, i know cause i was ziggy last halloween, and it just feels soooo goood!

  20. Why would you book rooms the tickets are most likely going to include camping and its gonna be in the south, most likely either indio or big cypress, lets be realistic

  21. my wife may not be the biggest phish phreak around but she enjoys trying to “uncover” these types of things….in researching a bit about indio, she found this sign for what is now called I-10 which may very tie together the merman and alien:

    http://www.indiocaroute99.com/content/view/14/30/

    see the slogan on the 2nd sign in the 1st row…….maybe so, maybe not……but i think SO

  22. I really enjoy seeing people request WV when it is clearly blacked out in the above graphic. Come on Oklahoma, yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! Oh, and by the way, a Michael Jackson halloween would be horrible. I could see them playing a song or two, but not anymore than that!

  23. I believe somewhere in the southeast. Although the California theory seems quite legit, I think Phish wants us to think it is in California but when only 2 states are left..FL and CA.. all the ants run to CA and bury it in black…haha after i said all this i could totally see CA. but fuck that i live in the south. and fuck Michael jackson, they might Page-up and Billie Jean for kicks but they wouldn’t do more than that.

  24. so i was messin’ around with phish.com/savethedate and my computer was running fps for a a little bit and when I loaded the page it loaded slowly in 2 frames. The first frame i quickly noticed might be interesting to print-screened the picture and uploaded it to photobucket. Heres the link:
    http://s579.photobucket.com/albums/ss236/fluffhead420/?action=view&current=ohshit.jpg

    IT is strange that some of the states that we know are blacked out arn’t blacked out….BUT some OTHER states are blacked out that weren’t before……

  25. im sorry, but my last comment didn’t make sense. When my computer was trying to load phish.com it loaded slowly in 2 frames probably because all of the flash player involved in the site. And I noticed, in the first frame, that my map was fucked up so I saved the picture.

    I would have thought that this was just a computer error.
    But it COMPLETELY DISPROVES the Indio, CAlifornia theory so I thought of it as interesting.

  26. Could this not be at the Texas ranch that we were all convinced of with the announcement of the late summer tour?

    Shut Out Phan: I have two for Chicago, happy to sell at face.

  27. First off, enough with the states we all know to be a ridiculous setting for a three day outdoor festival! Weather is siply the biggest factor! I remember the rumor about texas, but texas is a shitty state on so many levels!

  28. Indio is a for sure!! Come on to you guys who think that it will be in a state that will have 40 degree nights or lower like vt. And im surprised that no one has mentioned gamehendge as a good possiblity for one of the nights.

  29. it gets pretty cold out west in socal at night at this time of the year the only place it will stay 70’s and 80’s day and night is southern florida

  30. BoyManGodShit: that’s because the map starts off completely black and the animation lights up all the states before blacking a select few out.

    Omaha96: From I remember, the guy who had claimed he contacted officials in Georgetown, TX reneged on his claim. Someone else called the guy who owned the land shown in the satellite imagery animation and that person said no one was having a concert on his land.

    Unfortunately (since I live in the SE USA), every decent source I’ve come across has “confirmed” that it’s going to be in Indio, CA…but I hope it’s a bit closer to home.

    The animated map gimmick was interesting at first, but it’ll be hard to make any concrete plans for the next couple of weeks until it’s officially announced. 🙁

    As for the ants, I don’t think they mean anything: they’re just one of many methods they’ll use to “black out” states on the map. Before the ants, states were deflated. What’s next? Bees? Water? Plants overgrowing? Spotlights? Lasers? A giant foot or hand? A carving knife? Hungry, hungry hippos?

  31. FATTIES FATTIES FATTIES…WHIP ITS WHIP IT WHIP ITS….ICE COLD!!!

    VERMONT WOULD BE THE BEST CHOICE

    LETS GO BACK TO THE ROOTS

  32. I remember getting a SAVE THE DATE for Big Cypress…my vote is they’re heading back to the reservation

  33. The next two ways they will eliminate states is by a merman swimming from the NC area to Colorado and then an alien that will zap penn, tenn and nevada before flying back home to NM. All fingers are still pointing at Indio!

  34. “save the date” !the date production in indio cal is being threatened or something of that nature. hence, “save the date”

  35. 2 MORE STATES BLACKED OUT!! – OHIO AND COLORADO!!

    recently on phish.com/savethedate Ohio and colorado were pulled out of the date by a ship…

    ….. A ship can only mean one thing (hopefully) ..

    …FLORIDA!!!!

  36. Looks like the masters of anticipation have struck again. This time, a sea vessel sails from southeast waters, stops just next to Florida, & harpoons Ohio & Kansas out of the picture. Let the solving of the riddles continue.

  37. mkm0127: yes, I saw that PT thread, too. There are going to be quite a few different animations leading up to the last state.

    I wonder if a BBFCFM will take any states out.

  38. Listen guys the way the states are vanishing (ants/boats) are just fun ways to get rid of them…this isnt some big riddle…it will probably happen 20 more times…give me a break!

    dont look too deep into it.

    you will waste the small about of brain cells you may have left after all the fatties you been inhaling

  39. I agree with Jeff 100% about the animation. I really don’t think it has anything to do with where the phesty will be held.

    Jeff – Fat-ts are gud four yur brane sels! 😉

  40. significance of the fire ants (from “jamtopia”):

    Once again the super-sleuths at PT are doing a great job of reverse engineering this concept. Turns out about 10 years ago a turf farm in Indio, CA was invaded by South American fire ants prompting eradication measures by the state Food and Agriculture Department.

    If the fire ants are not eradicated, state officials could eventually order a quarantine to isolate the insects, which devour fruit, flowers and tree bark, officials said.

    Apparently the problem has only gotten worse since then. A long-term eradication program that started in 2000 was suspended in 2004 due to lack of funding and as recently as 2008 the fire ant infestation was reportedly spreading eastward.

    Unlike the real thing, the map version of California remains (not surprisingly) unharmed by the animated ants, but the overall creative concept continues to prove itself to be extremely well thought

  41. “Fire ants are found throughout the Southeastern United INsignificance of the fire ants (from “me”):

    Fire ants are found throughout the Southeastern United States as well as Southern California, Taiwan, and Australia.”

    The ants most likely have nothing to do with it…

    I supose we just might be eating chineese or a dingo at the shows by the logic that the ant are clue. Oh I know… the bullet holes in the first three states “shot down” represent all of the lovely gun violence in Southern Cal! I’m starting to get it now…

  42. I dont think the polo grounds can hold much more than 30,000 camping phish fans comfortable for 3-4 days let along their normal festival attendance of 70,000…imo Big Cypress seems like a much more viable place considering how successful their last concert was taken care of in terms of clean up and keeping the environment clean…it was said that they are always welcome back to Big Cypress, plus the weather in Florida is a hell of a lot better than in riverside that time of year..it wont be cold as hell at night. keepin my fingers crossed

  43. dont get greedy? they are gonna be in california next month they haven’t come anywhere near florida dude

  44. and people stop saying limestone..get your head out of the clouds its too cold up there in end of oct/nov

  45. PS… the rainy season at Big Cypress last May-October, and the place will be infested w/ mosquitos. Indio will be in the 80’s during the day and high 50’s at night… doesn’t sound too bad to me. Bust out your patch work hoodies and get yourself to Cali…

    “Going to California w/ an aching… in my heart.”

  46. Look Folks.. I LOVE Cali! Used to live there, and have seen Phish there at Shoreline several times! I miss the place… Northern Cal anyway! I understand that 100,000 fans fit in the “Concert Area” for two hours to see Rage against the Machine… I just don’t see 70,000 phans fitting in it with tents and vehichles for 4 or 5 days! The whole thing that seperates a festival and a three night stand is the fact that you are in a microcosmic comunity for the duration of the event. A community filled with people who are all there for the same thing. PHUN…. Phish style. I don’t consider checking into my hotel room each night after the show to be a festival. Maybe when I’m 60! I don’t think the boys do either. don’t get me wrong… the Indio site looks absolutely beatiful, and I would LOVE to see Phish there, but a festival there may be a stretch. Regardless this shit aint happening in my back yard, and I’m going to travel where ever it ends up.

    I must admitt that all of this speculating certainly is fun!

  47. i think all the states will be blacked out and that shit will be in mexico. plenty of space, great weather, plus with all the lack of hygeine, we’ll fit right in

  48. Finally a west coast fest (if it is actually Indio)! Rolling Stones’ “Sticky Fingers” would be nice.

  49. everythimg on wikipedia is wrong! phish on conan o’brian on oct 28! where does he tape the show? oh yeah, L.A.

  50. I live in Florida the dry season always starts in the middle of september-mid october and mosquito spawning has nothing to do with that. The everglades national park takes very extreme measures to eliminating mosquitio spawns, and the everglades is moving water so they arent gonna hatch there they are more abundant north of lake okachobee in the orlando lakes region.

  51. the polo grounds COULD fit 60,000 people on the concert grounds, but the camping grounds are said to be extremely overcrowded when there are that many people

  52. Forget Indio, CA, even though Wikipedia says they’re playing there.

    Location = Arizona
    Album = MJ is too obvious, the boys don’t do “obvious,” but expect a cover. Who Made Who, Ac/Dc

  53. With it being halloween and the recent events- Michael Jackson’s Thriller has to be the album they will cover…

  54. damon said on Wednesday, July 1, 2009 at 9:13 am
    everythimg on wikipedia is wrong! phish on conan o’brian on oct 28! where does he tape the show? oh yeah, L.A.

    WRONG>…..

    Conan films in NYC

  55. Conan films in LA now that he took over Jay Leno’s spot. Here’s the info directly from the Tonight Show w/ Conan O’Brien’s website:

    Gate-3 Lankershim Blvd., Universal City, CA, 91608.

    The Tonight Show with Conan O’Brien is shot on Stage 1 of the Universal Studios Lot in Universal City, California. Universal City is located just north of downtown Los Angeles.

    He previously filmed in NYC when he hosted “Late Night w/ Conan O’Brien”.

  56. Hear me out before you dismiss:

    I know all signs are pointing at Indio, I know the first states to deflate “symbolize” what a Date looks like when it is picked, I know the fire ants represent the fire ant infestation in Indio, and I know the ship that floats in suppose to represent some lost pirate ship that suppose to be some where in the CA dessert. But, and this is a BIG BUT, it all seems too obvious.

    I feel like this is a classic deception move, make everyone see and think one thing(Indio) and then at the last minute shock and surprise everyone into thinking those damn pranksters had us all thinking it was gonna be in Indio and look its was all a set up.

    Conclusions- Indio seems vastly over populated to host a Phish festival, let history be a indicator, where have all the other festivals been? Places in the middle of nowhere. Second, it doesn’t seem very festival like to have some phans camping and some phans staying in hotels (as pointed out above), that scenario is more like a Hampton Run. Lastly, why would we have a festival where there is a fire-ant infestation? How about we let history and common sense guide us rather than symbolic references?

    But at the end of the day I will probably be wrong, and it will be in Indio. But just some food for thought.

  57. Definitely Indio.

    For something out of the box, I will predict “Life’s Rich Pagent” by R.E.M. Crazy, you say? How many people predicted Remain in Light or Loaded? Not many. For anyone who doesn’t know LRP, learn it.

  58. Spink, I totally agree with you. I still believe in my Big Cypress theory.

    Oh yea check out this: At Big Cypress there was a time capsule called the Meatstick and everyone put shit in the time capsule for people in the year 4020. What they were doing was “saving the date” when they were putting shit in a time capsule.

    And the squid lady. Im not sure.. except squids are off the coast of florida…

  59. Spink Speaks the truth! That is exactly what I am thinking!!

    Probably see you in CA…. hoping it’s for a “festival”, and not a three night run!

  60. OK, stop the press, The fact is phish will be on Connan obrien on the 28th of october, In california , the 29th sound check and final prep in indio california for the save the date festival.The rest is as follows 2 sets first night 3 sets 2nd night 3 sets 3rd night. The rest of you can make reservations for florida where I belive hooty and the blow fish are haveing a 3 day throw down,probably big cypress or in vermont. but Phish will for sure be in indio california and so will I!

  61. Hooty, Hooty, Hooty! Ha!

    I live in San Dimas, CA (Yeah home of Bill and Ted) right next to San Bernardino County. I know a few people that work for the festivals around here and they are working Indio on Halloween.

    Sorry Guys, It’s our turn to rock the festival!

  62. The blacked out states are going to be the Fall Tour locations. Expect VA and NY to drop soon.

    Also, the Halloween album will be a Pavement album, presumably “Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain.”

  63. My money and hotel reservations are banking on Indio and here is what I think phish will cover…..
    1.Pavement- Crooked rain, crooked rain
    2.Television- Marquee Moon
    3.Devo-Q:Are we not men? A:we are devo
    4.Monks-Black Monk Time
    5.My Bloody Valentine-Loveless
    6.David Bowie-Low
    7.Clash-London Calling
    8.Gang of Four-entertainment
    9.Stooges-funhouse
    10.Can-Ege Bamyasi or Tago Mago
    11.Richard Hell&the Voidoids-blank generation
    12.ramones-ramones
    13.rolling stones-exile on main st.
    14.flaming lips-soft bulletin(my longshot)

  64. you guys are crazy.. Why would the make the save the date thing so suspenseful if they knew that everyone already knew it was CA? I dont think they are fall tour locations either, they are just the states that phish isn’t going to play Save the Date at.

  65. BoyManGodShit—-

    I totally agree with you, its all a big set up.

    I figured out what the octopus Vanna White represents, it’s Trey’s new side project- OctopusHead

  66. That alleged photocopy made me laugh, but definitely enjoyed looking at it. Good reconnaissance Gunnels.

  67. haha “alleged photocopy”. So Phish is going to photocopy their sacred tour dates and post it on photobucket. And it is Oysterhead not Octopushead.

  68. “Sometimes I have to figure out where to draw the line!
    We get in trouble for giving away secrets sometimes”
    – Mike in Billboard, 12/21/02

    I dont think they would give away the phestival location that easy.

  69. I love these people who think the location of the show will be in the Northeast. My word use your head for something more than a hat rack. At that time of the year it will be way to cold for a festival. DJ Kucinich I love the fact you think the show could feature a Can album. The Can album I would do, would be Saw Delight. I think this album has a better groove for jamming and dancing. To the Phish Phans who don’t know the music of the German group Can, LEARN!!! They are worth the time and trouble.

  70. BMGS, learn to take joke

    1. That bunk photocopy spells philips arena wrong, 2. The boys wouldn’t play warfield day after a 3 day festival

  71. when they did the skywriter thing to announce the summer tour to begin with, the planes were in santa barbara or santa monica or somewhere near LA, anyway this shows they apparently have some affiliation with southern california.

  72. “Hotels” people?!?!?!? HOTELS!?!?!? Get your ass’s in tent! This is SUPPOSED to be a FESTIVAL!!! (Sounding more and more like a 3 night run)

    I really don’t care if I have to travel to North Korea to see a “FESTIVAL” but if we all are gonna split up into hotel rooms and camp grounds (presumabley because we all know that the Indio site is too small) I just may save my money for real thing.

    West Coast Folks: You are not under attack.. come on… every one LOVES CA, and would love to go to a festival there. (at least everyone should). I thinks folks are worried about the almost certain Woodstock 99 type mayhem that will be created by a site that is way too small, and comes with way to many rules and regulations for a PHISH FESTIVAL. I don’t want to hear another word about Cochella! We all (should) know that there is a huge diff. between Cochella & a Festival! I’m not trying to be a spoiler, or have a negative attitude. I am TRYING to look at the whole thing realisticly. Empire Polo Fields, has a huge set of rules and regulations that they expect to be followed should Phish decide to use their facility to host this event. We’re talking checking into and out of the camp grounds from the concert area, No parking near your tent, security, security, security… I see a lot of heads going home in hand cuffs. I don’t know… Maybe we are at the dawn of a new deffinition of Phish Phestivals! I HOPE NOT!

    PS – Does anyone else get the feeling that a lot of new-b’s are on here that have never been to a festival??

  73. Harpua, I’ve heard the same info on the skywriters which announced the 1st summer tour, but then again the big “09″ for 2nd leg was painted in Georgetown, TX

  74. Not at all about the festival–I am looking for a face value SPAC ticket if anyone can do that, please post here.
    Thanks!

  75. harpua, my friend from the pacific palisades saw it and called me, thats in northern santa monica but that was a long time ago.

  76. also on gordons twitter he was talkin about chillin down in LA a lot, so i’m assuming they like chillin out in socal

  77. Hey all. I think Indio is the obvious bet. Cold nights, warm days…
    I would like to put a vote in for Built to Spill’s “Keep it like a Secret” one of the best rock albums ever made. Not “classic rock”, but totally guitar oriented rock. plus they could play Carry the Zero->Character Zero.

  78. Best choice for the musical costume has gotta be Are You Experienced? Thriller is a great album, but would you want to hear Phish play it? I wouldn’t. It’s also a glaringly obvious pick. Phish has already shown that they can rip Hendrix classics like “Fire”, “Bold As Love” and “All Along The Watchtower”. This album would truly highlight the musical abilities of the band, give Trey an extended chance to shine and show the world that Phish is truly BACK.

  79. Kentucky, Tennessee and Virginia are off the map by a Greek god blowing a north wind. My guess is that dude blowing the wind represents the Greek god Boreas – known for bringing none other than the north wind. Interestingly enough, a toad that is native to Southern California is the Bufo Boreas or California Toad. I’m still betting on Indio.

  80. Wow luvbug you are looking way to far into this…hahaha its absolutely insane….it just a fun flash animation to remove states…it has nothing to do with toads…or california fire ants…or wheel of fortune california aliens…its just random animations to get rid of states…ok fine its in CA but the flash animations have nothing to do with it

  81. I totally agree with you Jeff, insane it is! And the info you got from me in the above post was found in under two minutes by doing a google search. Just thought it would be fun to play into the hype. It doesn’t matter what animation they come up with next, someone, somewhere will make a connection to Indio, NM, Arizona or wherever they think the phesty is going to be!!!

  82. “ALBUM: Zepplin, Physical Graffiti”

    that would be great!

    so the theory floating around PT is that it is MIchelango’s god from the Sistine maybe.

  83. Okay folks, Yes I agree it sounds more like CA each and everyday. If Phish plays Connan O’Brian on 10/28 it is a safe bet it will be in CA. I still hope it is in Vegas for the Vegoose run, but who knows!!! All I do know is I am so there where ever it may be. As for an album, my vote is for: Citizen by Steely Dan!!!

    See you all soon my brothers and sisters

  84. For those of you still bitching about getting shut out of the lottery, with the exception of 3 shows – The Fox, Red Rocks, and Hampton – people couldn’t even GIVE away their extras at the shows this summer. If you go to the lot you’re guaranteed to get tickets at less than face. So quit whining and go to the shows already.

  85. scott: what’s the setlist from that show? i’ve never seen it (the setlist or the show in circulation) please find someone to do a digital transfer and share them on etree. 🙂

  86. Vegoose was canceled indefinitely last year. Still, Vegas could be a contender. Obv. Hampton is out. So it’s narrowed to Vegas, FLA and CA in my mind. I don’t think its such a big deal that they’re on Conan two days before… Ever heard of a plane? Ever heard of renting equipment? Not a big deal when you run a large operation.

    My vote is for Vegas. I’d prefer just to go to one night though, hope that’s possible.

    I think the album cover will be ZZTop’s “Tres Hombres” (Jesus Just Left Chicago, La Grange) or something brand new (to Phish) like “OK Computer.” Third option is a “Phish Cover” like Rift (these kinds of cover-your-own-classic-album shows are really popular these days).

    Then again, I was POSITIVE that Fishman was going to sing “Sweet Caroline” at Fenway, and obv I was wrong.

  87. Changing Radiohead vote to Kid A, and throwing in Tom Petty’s Wildflowers. That’s what? 5 predictions. OK, a little overboard.

  88. Seriously people were throwing tickets away b/c there were so many extras on the first leg tour, i ran into people selling pavilion seats for less than face, it u got shut out the first tour and didn’t score any for second leg, just show up u will get in(minus the obvious RR run)

  89. Conan has nothing to do with this. All their summer fests have been at airfields. In Bittersweet Motel they were shown getting off a private plane. Granted, TP took some liberties in the accuracy department in the film, but I’m guessing they probably elected to skip the car traffic at the others too. Just a guess. As Mike said, they are “medium rich.” They ain’t driving.

  90. Here is another interesting link about Dateland and Dates:

    http://www.dateland.com/

    Some interesting analysis on the latest animation from Jamtopia:

    “Neil points out that the god in the animation isn’t Thor at all, but the biblical God as depicted in Michelangelo’s “The Creation of Adam” on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel.

    The famous fresco illustrates the Book of Genesis story when God formed Adam out of “the dust of the ground” and then “breathed into his nostrils the breath of life”, causing him to “become a living soul” (Gen. 2:7, KJV, emphasis mine).

    As Neil further reminds us, after God created Adam he brought forth trees from the ground (Gen. 2:9), one of which was the Tree of Life.

    And guess what type of tree many cultures and biblical scholars believe to be the Tree of Life?

    You guessed it, the date palm. Imagine that. ”

    Dateland, AZ is well known for it’s Date Palm Trees:

    From the Dateland website:

    “Considered sacred in ancient times, dates were mentioned more than 50 times in the bible. Dates are the oldest fruit cultivated by man, and there are over thirty known varieties. Here in Dateland, we grow eight of those varieties, but some of them are available in such a limited quantity that we don’t offer them on the web site. If the dates you are looking for are not listed, just give us a call, and we will be glad to ship them if they are available.”

    I think you can definitely make a connection to just about anywhere at this point….

  91. I like this idea way better than Indio… it needs to be in the middle of nowhere not white upperclass resort area Cali. And for all you renting hotel rooms and houses you should just stay home… festies aren’t for you

  92. who really cares if some people stay in hotels or not, i mean I’ll be camping just like the rest of the majority, but people can choose whatever works best for them, I’ll still hangout and get down with anybody that decided to go; more room for us then anyway!

  93. Hotels are not festive… Anyone who chooses one.. more power to them (for some it is even nessecary). I’m good with that. My worry is that a good chunk of people won’t have a choice.

    I would love this festival to be in the CA. Desert! But I pray that it’s not at an upper class polo field just minutes away from local shopping, restaurants, hotels, attractions, and evrything else not Phish!!! I think I’m more convinced that this festival will be in the CA Desert in general, than I am that it will be at the Polo Fields!

    Either way… I’ve had the travel bug for sometime now, and I live in New England, so I KNOW I’m going some where… & I’m getting pretty f-en excited mother-bitches!!!

  94. AZD– I think you got this one right.

    Thanks for saving me time too, I’ve spent some time looking for decommissioned bases in SoCal and no luck.

    This place has all the makings of a phish festival. If I had to bet on it, I would put all my money on this one. It is a very logical location.

    I hope these tickets are cheap too, I remember Osweego was only like $75.

    Cover album request- How about the man who stepped into yesterday with complete narration. Its been since ’94 when the boys did it and I know a lot of people have been wanting it for sometime now.

  95. Looks like Gordon’s Segway just chopped the shit out of a few states. Can’t wait to see what that has to do with Indio.

    We’re getting down to the nitty-gritty! I love everyone’s cover album suggestions. Keep ’em coming.

  96. if its not at the polo fields then it will be @ the riverside county fairgrounds, where they hold the date festival every year. that festival’s attendance was 240,000 last year, plenty of space for a huge festival. theres a big casino right there and TONS to do during the day. lets face it, we’re all getting older and who wants to be stuck in the middle of nowhere for 3 days/4 nites? indio it is, just hafta wait on the actual location. hope to see everyone there!!!!!

  97. THEY’RE PLAYING IN TEXAS SUCCCKAS. ONLY A STATE THIS BIG CAN HOLD A VENUE THIS BAD ASS. AS FOR THE ALBUM……THRILL IT

  98. YEAH THATS RIGHT RICH. I HOPE AND PRAY THEY WILL PLAY IN TEXAS. WE HAVENT SEEN PHISH IN HOUSTON TEXAS SINCE ’99. WE DESERVE A PHISH CONCERT. PLUS ANY OTHER STATE BESIDES TX SUCKS ANYWAY. H-TOWN SMOKE A POUND LISTEN TO PHISH PLAYING MOUND

  99. No chance it’s in Texas. None. But I agree that the lone star state deserves a nice run of Phish shows!

  100. The unemployment rate must be very high, love Phish but this is readicculus !
    If it’s the desert they play hopefully they make it desert themed : lizards ,BBFCFM, mound,camel walk, vultures,chalkdust,Life On Mars, divided sky ….
    Hah got your mind racing about useless nonsense, game on !!!
    ” Don’t stop till ya get enough”,
    Willlllson.

  101. I don’t know about the man who stepped into yesterday being a true cover so much and therefore not totally fitting for halloween itself. It would be awesome though if they broke that out for one of the three days. Imagine day 1 is all new from the Joy album, Day 2 is Halloween and a good cover TBD, then day 3 they end it with a full TMWSIY. That would be a festival of all time.

    As for a musical costume cover for Halloween night I’ll through OK Computer in there. I know it probably won’t happen but it would be truly awesome.

    Then, for an encore – gin an juice just for kicks. Or maybe they should save that one and play it at the Hollywood Bowl and get Snoop to join them. That would be awesome.

  102. I keep hearing Indio, now I am reading about AZ. (which I have to say sound better than Cali with it being an airforce base). We all know Phish are not ones to place a festival in a busy popular area( Indio). I have attended all pervious festivals and not one of them was in a populated area such as the Polo Grounds. I still think it will be Big Cypress or Vegas, however if its Cali, then we are “going back to Cali.” I lived on the west coast for 12 years between Oregon and Seattle and it was few and far between that Phish played for us. So Cali, AZ, FL, Mexico, Jamaica, Mars, Uranus, where ever, just let us know already!!!!!! Another request for an album cover is: Jethro Tull AuquaLung. Aways a good halloween album!!!

  103. Derek and the Dominos ” Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs” thats what there playin. this friggin festival could be any where at this point. good evidence for AZ,CA, or GA. oh and fuck texas! give it back to mexico. worst state ever!

  104. In reference to AZD’s post of a gin and juice. Maybe you need to read up on your phistory but gin and juice is not covered by Phish but a bluegrass band by the name of the gourds…and “reliable source” where are you getting this info?

  105. Its funny how everyone is all hyped up about Indio, then all of the sudden now its AZ. But I agree with the AZ location that seems like a very phestive place. I’m going to Big Cypress, FL or AZ.

  106. In reference to PhandrewfromOHIO – I am well aware they never have done this before. That is why it would be great if they would do it just for the fun of it. I don’t know how many times I downloaded that mp3 back in the day when I used to just search for “Phish mp3” and download everything it hit. It’s the most mislabeled mp3 ever that it is its own little tidbit of history, and I always thought it would be awesome if they actually would cover it so there would finally be a real version they actually did!

    I think they are having a lot of fun on 3.0 and this would be a great example. They used to do a lot more crazy stuff like that, ie “getting jiggy with it” or whatever else they feel like and just plain having fun and being goofy. Did you see Pittsburgh 6/18/2009? For encore they did a cappella grind, then Hello my baby, hold your head up, changing instruments with Trey joking Fishman would do bike if they mess up the lyrics, which of course they did, Fishman then doing bike and had to redo a section he forgot, and totally just having a blast with it all and it was great.

    I think we’ll see more of this kind of attitude, good jams, easy going humor and all good times to come. Gin and Juice would be great if you ask me. I was calling for it at Bonnaroo when Snoop Dogg was there – would have been good. Maybe they never will, probably won’t do OK computer either, but those are just my personal wish list for the halloween musical costume.

  107. @Mr.MinorOG – I’d be shocked if it’s not in Indio, but I’ll never underestimate the prankster heart of this band so it’s certainly not out of the realm of possibilities that they’ll play somewhere else.

    I’d just guarantee that place won’t be Texas.

  108. I agree with Scott. They could fool everyone in the end. They can be clever from time to time. It might turn out to be a surprise. Doubtful, yet possible.

    I might know something.

  109. Search for crystal sand on google maps and it pulls up Dateland, AZ where they have dates too! Also there is a giant decomissioned WWII Air Force Base. The festival will be there for sure! All the clues point to there!

  110. If you search for Dateland, Az it will bring you to the wrong Dateland. Very Strange, possibly some tom foolery going on here maybe to divert searches away from the real venue!

  111. My bet is a cruise ship, leaving from Miami. My album pick is (although slim chance…) King Crimson’s “Three of a Perfect Pair”, phully phishified with a 42 minute Sleepless…

  112. Speaking of ghosts, I think I recall someone told me one time about the “story of the ghost”. Who could that have been?

  113. ive heard from a very reliable source that phish is practicing blink 182’s enema of the state for musical costume.

  114. I was just going to point out that Alaska and Hawaii weren’t on the map… AK just showed up and then blew up…

  115. hahahaha someone needs to try and make a connection of them blowing up alaska to having a fest at indio.

  116. it’s in Indio, CA no doubt about it , my buddy who lives on westcoast does concert promoting all over the west confirmed it’s gonna be there, this guy knows alot of bigwigs on the concert circuit and it’s on like Donkey Kong, also have a bunch of computer geek phriends who just hacked in and defragged the flash player and they said it points to Indio at the end. Pack ur bags kiddies, we’re going to Cali for Halloween!!

  117. Cover album…arcade fire’s neon bible…for sure cause i heard it from a reliable source who know’s trey’s junior high girlfriends cousin boyfriend’s mom…but joking aside it would be sweet…

  118. @bla bla I think the Alaska bit was the best part of the animation yet. It was nice to see that state go black. Take that Barracuda Palin!

  119. Didn’t Trey say they were all about taking requests at Camden? Maybe someone should start a web poll “What should Phish play for a musical costume?” Maybe they will listen to the people…

    Here’s one vote for “Marquee Moon” by Television.

  120. @ Richard
    For Christ sake dude take those caps off… Jeese…
    And another tip, if your gonna create another character to agree with yourself don’t have the caps lock on for both.

    On a side note, I hope they blow up Texas next!!! 🙂

  121. texas sux…..i have a hard time believing that the boys would play in the same state that the bush family lives in. no bueno. its in so cal, indio to be exact, so deal with it peeps and start making plans. its gonna be the sickestever!! readicculus to be exact!!!!!!

    and btw, they are naming it the save the date festival. genius

    hope everyone can make it!!!!!

  122. I sincerely doubt that politics has anything to do with concert site selection. I’m now thoroughly convinced it’s indo based on some blog dredging.

  123. it is Vegas not Cali, this comes a friend who is a Vegas city worker who is part of permits for big acts, concerts, circus, fairs etc. Halloween weekend

  124. The show will not be held in Vegas or TX. Hell peeps, we don’t even know what album we’re gonna play, yet. Maybe Blood, Sugar, Sex, Magic!

  125. All the states will end up going black and the balloons will reappear and place Cali. back and the boys will be laughing the whole time!!

  126. “All the states will end up going black and the balloons will reappear and place Cali. back and the boys will be laughing the whole time!!”

    Kings of Comedy Tour ’09!

  127. They wont play Halloween in the same placve twice so no Vegas. I know they played the Texas Triangle before but Phish and Texas go together like orange juice and toothpaste!!

  128. zappafrank makes no guesses or anything. He just calls out other people and lets everyone know when states have been removed. Thanks for the info. I love guys like you in chat rooms

  129. My vote is back to Big Cypress(until they black out Florida, Hahaha) phish what Pranksters! I was hoping they wouldn’t make it that easy for us. What other band out there hides the location of a 3 festival they want people to come to! awesome I love the suspense!

  130. Florida maybe but not Big Cypress. We set a record for traffic jams in Fla. 26 miles on both sides. The only worst planned festival was Coventry. I miss the innocent days of Plattsburg. We rode into this airforce base and were like “I guess we camp here?” Also my favorite festival musically 🙂

  131. There was no way it was going to be at the empire polo grounds, just not the place for a festival, maybe a couple of shows, but not a festival. Dateland, AZ looks like it has a real chance at this point.

    I kind of like the theory that they have had a few places at the top of the list in various locations, but haven’t completely settled on a final spot yet. So that is possibly why they have this whole map thing going on while they negotiate the details on the locations, some never had a chance and some get ruled out and they are updating the map as they go.

    Quite possibly they are also watching the forums to see what the fans are thinking about it too and who knows, maybe they are even considering some of the suggestions and ideas we come up with as they narrow down the final location.

  132. HAHA Cali I wanted to go there never been but people stop guessing you are killing me. I live in the Adirondacks in NY and trust me the northeast is cold this time of year. My guess is FL, TX, AZ and if I am lucky because the 1st is my 30th bday they will do just a 3 night stand at MSG haha not going to happen

  133. “it’s in Indio, CA no doubt about it , my buddy who lives on westcoast does concert promoting all over the west confirmed it’s gonna be there, this guy knows alot of bigwigs on the concert circuit and it’s on like Donkey Kong, also have a bunch of computer geek phriends who just hacked in and defragged the flash player and they said it points to Indio at the end. Pack ur bags kiddies, we’re going to Cali for Halloween!!”

    hahahahah nice dude

  134. “zappafrank makes no guesses or anything. He just calls out other people and lets everyone know when states have been removed. Thanks for the info. I love guys like you in chat rooms”

    get your panties unwadded. my post was in reference to the Phish guys. go hang out with your heady brobrahs and stop being negative. I love this whole map thing and am having lots of fun.

  135. Just come back to the midwest! I don’t think I can talk the wife into anything further than an 8 hr drive…

  136. Oh and my music choice is which no one has mentioned anything by the band! We all know the boys love em! I mean who doesn’t we could even get the giant country horns involved for those of us that know who they are!

  137. Somebody get Fagot on the phone. There’s no better place for a festival in October than Texas.

  138. they just removed California from the save the date US map… guess it will not be at Indio

  139. The zoom out thing is true. I think it was just bad animation though (like when the site first was up and it would show you all of the animations in a row). I’m saying that they’re saying that CA is OUT. As in, discussion over. Then again, I’m frequently wrong about these things.

  140. @teddy, let’s keep the negativity out of this chat, just adding statements to call people out is super weak, I’m sorry to say it’s still going to be in Indio brah, add something positive and have some fun with this whole thing, good work with the copy and paste though.

  141. I want it to be in New York, as I can’t travel for both Halloween and New Year’s and I WONT miss New Year’s.

  142. Hell yeah. It would be nice to be in Texas. if its in texas. after party at my house. i got 17 acres. that should be big enough to hold 50,000+ people haha.

  143. This is the problem with our generation and electronic communication, all human decency is disregarded and people act like idiots, calling each other names and insulting one another.

    If you would of told me 4 years ago that phish would play a 3 night renunion in Hampton, two legs of a comeback tour, and a 3-day Halloween festival in 2009, I would have serious reservations.

    Let’s be happy that OUR band is back and rejoice in the events that have unfolded since last fall when we all opened phish.com to discover some guy painting the Mothership followed by “March 6, 7, 8”

  144. I have nothing against Texas – can I come to your after party Richard if they have it in Dixieland?

  145. Zoom out by holding control on your keyboard and rolling the scroll thing on your mouse. dont’ know any other way

    Again, I think cali is out and this is just bad animation. I bet they fix it soonish.

  146. ^^ – California will rise again! I wonder who is having more fun with this – the band or the fans?

  147. Cali is still in…I wouldnt change any reservations if I were you. California is still floatin around…

  148. I agree with Mr. Palmer… let’s keep this as positive as possible. We all love phish and the fact we take the time to post and repost comments on any site like this just goes to show the power their music has to bring so many people together! Being from New York and still struggling to get a darien or SPAC ticket I would love to see them in the Northeast (IT was my first and best live experience) but weatherwise it probably wont happen. The manchester site holds a good deal of people (hello bonnaroo) does anyone think they’ll go back to Tennessee? Coverwise…I think it would be hilarious (but not likely) if they took a no talent super cheesy teeny bopper band and just rocked the shit out of it!

  149. That is…if the whole blacking out the states doesn’t mean anything…Haha Date, Arizona sounds like a good guess…creepy halloween out in the desert

  150. YOU GUYS!! Look at the actual BALLOONS themselves. The ones that lift Cali off the map. They are covered in arrows pointing up. PLUS, intertwined with the arrows pointing up are other arrows pointing down, as if to say ‘what goes up must come down.’ Maybe its true that they will drop Cali back onto the map. The fact that it is somehow floating still (when you zoom out) corroborates with my observations.

    Either way, I will see all you guys there (and at the Gorge). I love Phish– I agree with Mr. Palmer–who the F holds a giant rock festival and hides the location? Its great and no other band does this kind of trickery.

    Again, I hope for a non-classic rock album. I know Trey loves My Bloody Valentine…

    one last thing–
    Don’t call people idiots!!!!!!!!!!!

  151. sorry jah i meant im struggling to GO to darien and dont have a spac ticket yet hey man I’m trying to make it through grad school broke as a joke and working two jobs. why take the time to be so negative about something like that anyway?

  152. 100% Indio. If am reserving my R.V. 2morrow. The balloons will return. If I am wrong then Zappafrank can totally laugh at me because I will lose a $1,000 deposit. I am not doing any namedropping but believe me its Indio. The have a 28,000 square foot open air tent and a 48,000 ft one. If I am wrong so be it but I just bet $1,000 that I am not. Either way ill be there and I cant wait! They really played it a bunch smarter this time around. Shorter jams and not too many shows. Eventually they will be back to the old experimental boys, they cant help it. Nothing will ever compare to Fall `97 funk to me but I still love it!! I am very doubtful but I would give anything for the album to be Animals. To hear Trey play the guitar licks from Dogs on Halloween in Cali. or wherever would be amazing to me.I know they played Dark Side but Trey was wacked and they did it too fuck with everyone that went to Vegas and skipped Utah. They butchered it but they didnt care. Only 5,000 people went to Utah. I love their sense of humor. When was the last time “The Best Show Of The Tour” rumored, actually was? Keep us guessing, I love it!! Just in case I already have 10 possible R.V. rentals for Dateland,Az. Where there is a will there is a way!!!!!!!!!!!

  153. whoa I never said that about boy bands..why does it matter if I didn’t discover Phish as early as you, I wasn’t trying to run my mouth just random;y speculating but congrats I guess you came out on top for making a total stranger look stupid via comments on an internet posting?

  154. Carry the Zero, definitely agree about the arrows. Also….

    Having CA left up top is definitely not a glitch or “bad animation.” You can tell it was deliberate. If you zoom out before the balloons finish moving the state you can watch as they settle into their current place. The balloons go from “pulling” the state in a northeast direction into simply hovering above. If it was left there by accident, the developer certainly would not have gone out of their way to reposition the balloons into a “non-moving” position.

    Its gonna be in Indio people. Don’t hate. Be Happy 🙂

  155. Dont worry K.O.P., I have money left. Dont hate and stay positive, it will get you farther in life. For the record I dont wish that anyone on this page loses any money. I cant go to any of the summer tour but I mail ordered the whole thing and got about 80% I have plenty of cash left over for whatever the halloween festival and winter tour brings. I just like to be prepared with hotel reservations and R.V.`s, I dont camp. I have hotel reservations within walking distance of every rumored winter tour and N.Y.E dates and venues. 24hr.cancellation on them. Since 94 it hasnt failed me yet. I just like to be comfortable and not rushed. I like to set it up and my friends love my boy scout attitude. No worries luv. Kill them with kindness buddy.

  156. jah: one more thing, get some more shows under the belt before you run your newbie mouth about phish.

    you are what is wrong with the whole phish scene you douchebag scummer

  157. People, what is the use of holding onto California? It is gone, fell into the ocean, lifted off by balloons.. whatever, it is gone. Cancel your hotel/rv reservations and move on… I am so sick of reading about California coming back. Lets hope for Vegas or Florida!!!!!

    Album Cover: Roger Waters; Pros and Cons of a hitchiker

  158. Im in Jersey and I don’t care where the phestival is, Im going! My bday is on November first and I would love to spend halloween and my birthday weekend with Phish jamming for 3 nights!

  159. I really find it funny that soooo many people SEEM personally hurt here due to the unexpected early exit of California….. Don’t be upset guys!!! Disappointed….. maybe, but not upset! The boys love ya! Honestly folks it has nothing to do with your state, or whether or not Phish, or anyone else likes it! It’s all about legality, MONEY, practicality, remoteness, and miles and miles of red tape, and hearings. Don’t forget that the town and state that they choose is not at the mercy of Phish. This is the real world… Like it or not, and in the real word, this shit is extremely difficult to pull off. If all you had to do was pick a spot and push go… Everyone would be doing it.
    For those of you who STILL INSIST on Indio being the spot….. I would love to live in the bubble you’re in, where everything goes your way, and polka dotted ponies eat rainbows and shit butterflies…. BUT I happen to live here on earth in the real world, where CA. has been creatively eliminated. Would I put it past the boys to resettle Cali, if even just to quite the rumors, no I would not. I would not put ANYTHING past them at this point, and happily so…. But Indio was NEVER IT!!!!! CA, I believed in, but not Indio.

    By the way folks… This last weekend was the Balloon Festival in Stowe, VT. (about 28 miles from Burlington) The boys know what they’re doing….

  160. Any chance that they ARE playing Indio, but not on those particular dates? I do find it suspicious that CA is actually floating above the map and did not really disappear. I also like that the blacked out states really do look like an “H” and a “W.” Either way, I love these guys.

  161. Poster- that part about the ponies and buterflies is hilarious- i dont agree with everything u said but u have pretty much coverd all bases, i like the fact that you haven’t completely thrown the Cali idea out the window, it seems to be out of the realnm of certain people that if phish can blackout a state they can most certain bring a state back just to mess with us, its Phish come on guys, its just way to early for any certainty on where they are going to have this festival, but it sure is fun trying to guess;
    and i agree with you on your last post about the negative Nancys Jah and Tom

  162. Everyone keeps saying that its floating above the North East…How do you zoom in or out to see that…i want to see what everyone is talking about

  163. I am with Jeff, how the hell do you zoom in or out on that page. Someone come to the rescue. Chunkybutt, if I dont have enough people than you can provided you are at least half normal. It averages $200 for 5 days generator,insurance,and miles included. Not gas but still affordable!

  164. Jeff-on the bottom right hand corner of my screen is a little box that indicaets that the screen is displaying 100%. I clicked on it and changed it to 150% and it showed more of the image, including CA floating above the map.

  165. Reba- FYI I didn’t post that to you above about the money- for what its worth I didn’t post any of the mean or rediculous comments abve, it’s just someone with a lot of time on their hands who thinks its funny to make a random 24 year old grad student sound like an ignorant jerk. Sorry all for the 3rd grade bullying and if there are any other posts from kingofprussia its not me! I’ll just read the guessing games in one of the other forums!

    Can’t wait for the festival, regardless of the location, since I need to get more “shows under my belt” 🙂

  166. If your using a pc then you can zoom in or out by clicking on the view tap and then clicking zoom…or you can just hold the control key and then click either the plus or minus key to zoom in or out…it’s definitely still floating up there…

  167. Hi Everyone, I posted this in other forums and I am trying to see what as many Phans as possible think… just for fun if nothing else!

    Does anyone think that there might be a different purpose for the animations? Perhaps they are actually references to Phish songs and that the state by state removal is just randomly counting down? Perhaps Save the Date means just that… “save the date”?

    Ants….. Antelope
    The dude blowing the wind – PYITE?
    The Ship… Caspian?
    Balloons… Esther?
    Alaska… well… Alaska. 🙂

    I dunno… i am just guessing off the top of my head. I have not had a lot of time to think about it too deeply (plus i don’t remember what all the animations exactly were).

    What does anyone else think? I am just looking for other fun alternatives to think about! 🙂

    At any rate, it is pretty sweet that they are having a festival… no matter where it is! Having been to all three Limestone shows and the Oswego shows… they are an awesome time with good people from ALL OVER the country! 🙂

    What a great time and a great summer of live music!

    Spread the joy and love music wherever you go!

    Peace

  168. If you all want to go the way of the balloons…
    “Red, White and Blue Balloon Festivals
    Indio, CA and Las Vegas, NV”

    The balloons will come back down or it will be in Vegas or Arizona. Either way it will be in that general area.

    I think it’s funny people are getting upset… so so sensitive…

    Its Indio biznitches! Indio!!! 😛

  169. No worries K.O.P. Is someone sayimg that they are “Phishier?” than you because of show count? That is so lame. I have seen 193 shows since Hershey winter `95 and my friends and I always make fun of C.G.O.`s Cool Guys Only who think that matters. At some point everyone was seeing there first show and that should be one of the best feelings that you have had since. I get jealous of people hearing their first Mikes Groove or Tweezer. As long as you love the boys everybody has the same right to a ticket or to comment on the band. I will trade a Tour Trash leech that goes to every show begging for money or a miracle for a new fan anyday. “I need a miracle?” If you like the band so much then get a job and save up money for some tickets. When I first started tour I had my patchworks and my Vanagon but I had tickets and a job. It was so funny to watch the difference of attitude through the years towards me when I had short hair and an Acura. The lot can be so clicky sometimes I just find it so funny. Amount of shows or having dreads doesn`t make you cooler on “the lot” or more appreciative of the music! Its about the music not about you.

  170. LISTEN,U ALL SOUND SILLY,THE 1 HOMMIE THAT SAID CALI. WILL DROP BACK TO THE MAP IS ON POINT…I SAID THE SAME THING FROM DAY 1…WHO CARES WHERE ITS AT..IF UR A TRUE PHAN LIKE MYSELF NO MATTER WHERE ITS AT U WILL BE THERE………….PEACE

  171. Hey guys, please respect each other and if someone says something dumb just ignore them. You’re all Phishier than thou and I know that because you’re smart enough to read this blog 😉

  172. Thank You Mr Palmer! You are a gentel-person and a scholar! This whole thing is soooooo exciting! I’m loving everyones imput!

    MaineMusicPhan – I like your way of thinking! Anything is possible. At this point I am not ruling out any options!

  173. Woah, this went bananas. People need to chill.

    I am of the opinion that Cali flew away for good. If you want to see some bad flash coding (i.e. see cali floating), wait until the animation is over, then hold down the control key, and then scroll your scroll-y thing down on your mouse and you will zoom out and see Cali.

    Like I said, personally, I don’t think Cali is in the running. I have more impt. things to do with my time than worry about this though, so I’m getting back to work.

  174. Frank Zappa Hot Rats. Encoe one of days with triller.Hopefully Its in GA. There not going to play TX its going to be were nobodys knows.

  175. Mister misty I am sure you are just mad because you are one of the people I am talking about. I count my shows and have every ticket stub along with other memoribilia along the way. I cherish the times I had and have had mostly great experiences. I would hate to live life as cynical as you do but thats your choice. I have made tons of new friends and business partnerships along the way and I love it. I have a few great negative lines I could throw back your way but I wont. I am not about that. If that is too much kindess for you to take then keep it coming. I find it amusing. Poor C.G.O.`s 🙂 Georgia is a great place for hippies to drive through LOL I had a hunch so I looked back at old posts and cant find your sign in name anywhere. If you have to keep switching it up because of past comments you made then I know exactly what type of person you are. Too funny…PEACE_LOVE_DOPE!!

  176. We really do not need to bring sexual orientation into this. We are all supposed to be just throwing out ideas and hoping for certain locations. I do not know a whole lot so I just like to hear what other people have to say, I do not like wasting my time reading posts that just bash each others posts. I am from the northeast so of course I hope that I do not have to go across the country to see the show but no one should hate on anyone for wanting it one place or another. Do you think the next clue will come earlier than the weekend? and do you think that the next clue will tell us the location? I do believe that it could still be in Cali just because all of the last states they have erased or just blown up aka Alaska and this one they just kind of flew away. Also when they get rid of states the do more than one and cali was the only one….

  177. Very funny whoever is signing in under Reba. And writing their own stuff intertwined with mine. Mister misty I would be willing to bet that you dont and havent had a girlfriend for a while. Actually I will be on winter tour and if you run into me I will be the guy with the true Sour Diesel and Elvis if you even have sampled. If you want I can break you off the eigth you can only afford for $60 like every other time someone sees a true mark coming.

  178. Guys like you I have been selling beesters to for 10 years. Thanks for the support. Do you still have the gram of Kush from last Christmas? You are probably saving it for Halloween night. Make sure you get it nice and resiny in your chamber pipe!!

  179. You know why you hate dont you?? People who have no need to hate especially on a Phish chat room have lives. I went on yesterday to find out about Cali. and the Az. thing. Thanks for the info and maybe I will roll buy your tent and drop a nug just to see you and your friends fight over it. I have a very comfortable lifestyle and I am truly sorry that you dont. Start a grow room or do something besides sit in front of your computer all day getting yelled at by your mom. See you at the shows???

  180. ok so maybe i won’t see you in cali for these set of shows, but…umm…i’ll see you in cali on aug 5th for sure 😉 lol…way to save myself…

  181. The pinball shows Fishman in a viking helmet. He wore that all fall tour 98. That tour they did a new cover ever show which is interesting. Perhaps this is clue towards what they are going to cover not where?

  182. its kinda sad that this is what it has come to. the recent posts reflect negatively, not only on the people wasting time to post negative comments, but on the bands fanbase as well. as a fan who has been seeing the boys since ’93 and attended every festival and over 100 shows, i am sorry to see such negativity surrounding the site of the festival. what do you think the band thinks when they read this? we should all be stoked that they are giving us, ALL OF US, and opportunity to see them without the worry of the shows selling out. just be grateful that the opportunity is there cause we are all gonna be there no matter where it is. peace out……..

    safe travels to everyone and see ya’ll in indio!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  183. So apparently there was one commenter who kept on making personal attacks under a variety of pseudonyms. I’ll try to keep better watch and erase any personal attacks as they come in. In the three years we’ve run Hidden Track we’ve never had to do that before. 🙁

  184. I’ve heard the festival will be announced on Monday with ticketing to follow immediately. I’ve also heard Indio from a friend that was at the meeting between the band and AEG. The question is whether the fall tour will be announced as well.

  185. I have a friend named Luke Skywalker who happens to be John Lennons butler, and he said that John told him that Treys neighbor’s… friend’s… Dentist, heard from Page’s old college roomate that Mike said he saw Fishman, signing paper work for the festival with the man on the moon, where the festival is to be held! The states will ALL be blacked out until there ar none left, and the festival will be held on the moon.

    This is from a very reliable source with deep connections in the music bizz, and concert production…. OUT OF THIS WORLD!!!!

  186. Oh Yeah… Maybe they will cover the Who???? They haven’t done that yet have they??? The whole pinball thing…

  187. By the way, that last elimination was the best yet!
    It’s almost as cool as it’s gonna be when the balloons drop back down to the map to reveal where the festival is…

  188. omg that is the funniest thing on this thread so far…I can’t believe skywalker was able to get that much info.

  189. Why would they cover albums with no keyboards? is paige just gonna sit on his ass while they play some of these suggestions??/

    come on , use some sense in this..

    BTW the Phish site down down down right now for some reason.

  190. Skywalker is a very knowledge guy. Trust. I was listening to Axis Bold as Love a couple days ago and was trying to decide what would be cooler to hear from phish. Axis… or electric lady land? Voodoo Chile would be sick…

  191. Why is it that everyone keeps thinking Indio? I have no problem with it, I saw a cochella a few years ago and its a cool place. I have also seen plenty of phish festivals, and I have to say the Polo Grounds are not intended for 80,000 of us. Yes it is warm at night (a huge must for that time of year)but not big enough for all of us and our cars etc. They are very strict on their rules with security, and the town near by is a snooty litty town where the police will bother us. So being a west coaster for more than 14 years, I say cool less money to Delta airlines, or united airlines, but I have too say Indio will suck in the long run!!!!! I am hoping and been saying Vegas since this whole thing has started, but I dont know any security folks who have been told to take halloween off, or hotel people saying we are all booked up. My guess is the band is laughing at all these post and how much people have turned on each other… Crazy its all about the music, party, and a great time.. So if its Cali cool, but I am thinking its AZ,NV, or FL.

  192. nysro – Point well taken… I did not even think of that… lol! & I LOVE Page too! Shame on Poster!

  193. I’m from Jersey and I can at least tell you all that the Phestival won’t be here haha…its just not the kind of state for that kind of event…but no worries over here, i’ll make it wherever its at! Siked as hell and I think the band is pretty clever to keep everyone on the edge of their seats like this! 🙂

  194. zig zag –

    You are spot on bro/bra! (sorry don’t know which to call ya) Vegoose site is pretty big, and pretty cool! Been there… I am kind of hoping for Big Cypress because I missed out in New Years in 99/2000. (Had bills to pay ya know) That site looked awesome, with no pavement, and all of the Cypress trees, and wildlife. From what I have heard Phish is welcomed back by the Indians, and FLA, anytime. I would also love to go to desert for this thing. I’m a CT. boy…. as long as I get out of here… it’s cool!

  195. Shphector –

    Please do not be offended by my loving pun… BUT

    Do you still believe in Santa Clause?!?!?!?

  196. with cali blacked out, theres no doubt in my mind, they are coming HOME! get ready to spend halloween in a cow field in good ol VT

  197. well cali is no longer floating. Make sure to keep on booking your reservations in indio though. maybe that will leave enough tickets for those of us who are patient enough to wait, and are too broke to travel the length of the country for a festival. obviously it will be some where warm which is why they are eliminating most northern states. we will know for sure on july 28 when the record drops. this will build the hype for the new album. Doy

  198. The festival will be in Tx. Cali isn’t coming back. I personally believe they will play where they havent played since they came back. Get ready texas… Hookem horns..

  199. Mr. Palmer said on Monday, July 13, 2009 at 6:37 pm

    I have nothing against Texas – can I come to your after party Richard if they have it in Dixieland?

    I’m glad someone is open-minded about Texas, for a change. Ironic that the peace, love and happiness-ers can be some of the more closed-minded and judgmental. Texas is no different than any other state. It’s got its good folks, its bad folks, its cool spots, its lame spots. Everyone should grow up and be happy they are playing anywhere.

    But Mr. Palmer, let’s leave the Dixieland thing out. We’re not part of the south. Nothing wrong with the south. I love the south. But Texas isn’t part of it.

  200. This is getting frustrating!!! We have all discussed our theories, and I feel like there is almost nothing left to do but wait and find out.

    any other album theories?

    I don’t really think it matters of the albums have keyboards…All four of the boys are excellent arrangers, and they can make an album better/different by adding keys.

    Not to mention:
    Page can also play guitar, bass, or drums
    Mike can also play guitar, drums, keys, banjo, mando, etc
    Trey, etc
    Fish, etc.

  201. JCouv,

    Agreed. Nothing’s a done deal, and I still think Cali is on the table too. Just hoping for Texas so I can drive. One thing that hasn’t been mentioned in a while. Voodoo Fest in NOLA and Panic in Austin for Halloweens. Would Phish try to compete (or upstage) that? My gut says no. Damn it.

  202. HipTard just made the best case for why Texas is out. Sad to say, it is all about making money folks.

  203. The more I look at it I think the pinball image is definitley more of a reflection than an imposed image. So it is as though Fishman in his viking helmet is looking down at the ball from behind the screen.

    Perhaps that just means that he is playing the pinball game, or maybe it was just his idea for the map on this animation. But choosing that particular image has to be some little hint so perhaps it is a clue.

    Given the fact that he wore the helmet during fall tour 98 and being a reflection perhaps that indicates they are going to reflect back to 98 this fall tour? Maybe that means a new cover each show, and possibly that means Vegas for halloween since NV is still on the map?

  204. It is gonna be at the Plattsburgh Air Force base and they will provide coats to all the people with tickets.

  205. azd- fishman playing the pinball machine awesome! I like that. Vegas would be the shit for Halloween, I mean if they are gonna have it anywhere near civilization why not America’s playground- Vegas baby!

  206. They will be playing Derek and The Domino’s “Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs” CONTRACTS ARE SIGNED

  207. its going to be where its warm… Pits out of the picture.. Az,Tx, or Fl.. I think they will play in Florida for news eve week which leaves Az or Tx..

  208. Hiptard made a good point.. rule out new orleans bc of voodoo fest happening on halloween wknd. Panic in Austin.
    just maybe phish in cypress, tx.. that would be badass..

  209. I guarantee you it will not be Indio, its been eliminated its done. Do you really think this info would be leaked to someone who works one festival a year before its even been officially announced? I’m sure that there has been an agreement with whoever the contract was signed with that the location and whatever else will remain undisclosed until officially announced by the band. All the rumors of locations are based on conjecture and hearsay. I just have a feeling that when the whereabouts are announced its going to take everyone by surprise.

  210. @ Shphector

    Heck.. Yeah! We’re all having a blast with this!!! I’m glad you have a good sense of Humor!!!!

    *** Where ever the festival is… We should all agree on a place to get together, like at the message board or the ferris wheel at a certain time, and have a smoke or something. I feel like I have new Phriends! ***

  211. poster- i like that idea, I’ll def kick it with you if u wanna meet up. Hell we should even get Glide magazine to sponsor a web-tent for us and we could all sit around all weekend and blog about the festival, LOL

  212. And there is a balloon design featured in their new tour merch…Right size, right part of the country…And they will cover Chinese Democracy

  213. There is a hot air balloon festival north of Big Cypress in Apopka, FL that same weekend.

    Squeeze’s Singles: 45’s And Under. I think that would be a perfect album for them. Mike singing “Cool for Cats,” Page on “Tempted” with parts for the rest of the guys. I would be in pure bliss.

  214. NYE at big cypress.. which means.. Florida is out for halloween wknd. To cold to have a festival up north in late October. Average temps are in the 30s up north.

  215. I’m loving this hot air balloon idea! I hope the boys are reading this stuff!

    Another wishful thinking for a Musical Costume – “Blind Melon” the self titled or even “Talk Soup”…. Dang…never gonna happen!

  216. Cali is still off my map and hasnt hovered for days. If the show is in the northeast I will meet you all by the msg board and eat my hat bite by bite litally. It is way too cold up here that time of year. It is my 30th bday on nov 1st and i pray it is close. They are covering the band that much i know haha

  217. Oh and thanks for stopping the negative stuff boys and girls. Its all going to be good that much we all know. THE BAND THE BAND THE BAND

  218. Jalepeno mustard? Chile lime salsa? That’s the kind of bold flavor they enjoy in… ALBUQUERQUE! (Balloon Fest Grounds).

    That’s my gut call. Fire ants, balloons, aliens (Roswell). And Phish wrote a song about it.

  219. its going to be in alabama just a couple of hours from me for sure lol..for real though the suspense is about to kill me..ive never looked at a website soooo many times n one day

  220. @Poster’sNutBag I am down for beers/herb at my/your tent! See you guys there?

    Honestly I feel like I am in High School again. I just got back from work and checked phish.com and I was like “uggh, still the pinball game.” Just waiting and waiting for the next clue.

    I am so pumped for this fest, wherever it will be. IT was a weather nightmare, and Coventry was cataclysmic. So you can bet fer sure they are placing all their bets on good weather…

    Also, My guess is a “The Curtain” closer. They haven’t played it yet and what better place to bust it out than at the end of the festival (to make up for Coventry…).

  221. tele-mon… I may be mistaken, but I think that Neil Young wrote Albuquerque… Again… I THINK… New Mexico would be coo-el though… Especialy if it’s near Roswell on Old Hallow’s eve….

  222. Rutherford the brave –

    Lets do it!!! We should all wear a t-shirt with our screen names from this thread on them…. That would be a lot of fun!

  223. look for a zig zag shirt and stop me at the festival. I will smoke some dank w/you :)Poster nutbag!!!!! I still think Vegas. I cant wait for the next round of states to be gone. I want my mail order already, are people still waiting? Getting Nervous

  224. This is killing me. I live in AZ an I’ve decied I’m not getting on a plane for this. Cmon CA,AZ,NV,or TX.

  225. I’ll get on a plane, rent a car, truck or ride a bus to this show, so will you makisupa don’t lie to yourself.

  226. Cali is out guys.. why do peeps keep thinkin that the state of cali is comin back? if cali has a chance of coming back then so does alaska ha ha.

  227. Yo dmbexodus, I dont have any “insider” info, I just copied it from another message board. I was shocked to say the least when I read through it so I thought I would throw it out here to all you peeps to see what you think. Im still hoping for a trip out west!

  228. just something involving jersey and the save the date map that my friend sent me, I’m working from an iPhone so it’s easier for me to email out, just something funny and cool

  229. New Jersey eh?

    Honestly when I think about it a semi cold location would not be all that bad if the weather works out. The nice fall colors and fresh cool air could be a real nice Halloween setting. But it is too hard to predict and could turn into a mess if the weather turns out wet or particularly cold. Back east the “summer” music festival is the thing, but they are doing this one well into the middle of fall and so I’m holding out for somewhere warmer and drier that time of year.

    Besides, at this point who can believe any of the “leaked” info that is out there? Every day there is more, all of it coming from someone totally credible of course – nothing made up it all comes from real bona fide people that work with the band and have the real inside scoop. Right.

    Check this out that I just found:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Phish-Map-rare-black-tshirt-tee-S-M-L-XL-XXL-XXXL_W0QQitemZ270419689986QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_CSA_MC_Shirts?hash=item3ef6450202&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1240%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

    Aside of the fact that there is already someone marketing product on this event which is pretty crazy in and of itself, it would also seem whoever they are has some insider info of their own. That is if you look New Jersey is already gone on their map. So is Arizona and Florida. Looks like it might be Texas based on this one…..

    At this point I’m just looking forward to a new map update hopefully tomorrow. I’m a certified addict and now I’m beginning to wonder what the heck I’m going to do with myself when this is finally revealed…..I guess I’ll just switch to planning my trip to wherever it ends up being.

  230. All I have to say is NJ sucks!!!! The cops are mean, the state smells, and I think if the show was there, we all would freeze at night. There is no way on NJ…… Go Vegas baby

  231. why everytime you touch the words save the date or three day festival does it look like a raindrop hits water? do you guys think that could mean something or is it just because its in the ocean?

  232. oh yeah there’s no way this fest is gonna be anywhere north of the mason-dixon line, Viva Las Vegas!

  233. if you think there is a 3 day festival in NJ at the end of October, I will sue your parents.

    Also, if you send me $1000 I will reveal the location.

    Contracts have been signed. I know the PortoJohn people.

  234. If nothing else, it has been so much fun reading all of this and checking Phish.com 20 times a day! My 2 cents….I think it’s safe to say that people who are officially involved with this are watching comments like these and having just as much fun as us. It almost seems too suspicious that after all of the Cali rumors got out, that Cali was the next state gone. I also believe that the arrows on those balloons point up….and back down. Being from NY, there’s no way I’ll be able to get to Cali in October, but my money is still on them having it there. Anyone from the Northeast knows that Halloween can mean either warm temps or snow. It’s simply not good planning to have a festival with 70,000 people sleeping outside in tents with the possibility of that weather.

  235. Southern IN would be an awesome place for a festival, central US so everyone could come from all over, temps can vary that time of year but are generally around mid 60’s-mid 70’s…fingers crossed, can’t hate me for hoping!

  236. Indio got nixed because they had issues with people camping and bringing alcohol on-site. All signs point to Vineland. Learn about it.

  237. I’m not trying to sound negative but all these people putting in their two cents and ending it with CONTRACTS ARE SIGNED is really pissing me off. No one knows anything solid yet and if you happen to get it right you got lucky.

  238. TJ~i think the “contracts are signed” thing is a joke…

    notorious~the “save the date” is in canada & mexico, not the ocean! lol so i’m not sure why it waves when you mouse over. maybe it’s just meant to be cool.

    does everything HAVE to mean something? people talking about the left flipper on the pinball pointing to dateland is kinda funny. if you go by that, what about the right flipper?

    and cali could fly back. alaska got blown up so, uh, that’s a little different.

  239. I still say Vegas!!!! But I agree w/ “Curious” I grew up in New England and there were plenty of Halloween’s that we had snow on the ground. I think it is between AZ and Vegas. Vegas because It’s Vegas, and AZ because the military base it would be on, is so phish perfect for a festival. Who cares, I am so there!!!!! Now back to waiting for Fed Ex and my mail orders……………

  240. Ya’ll gotta admit though…the suspense is pretty entertaining! And it gives us all something to look forward to each day!

  241. Well looks like NJ is outta the picture! Seems you can’t believe anyone’s “insider” info, as the NJ rumor/image looked pretty believable (except for the weather).

    I wonder what the last 5 states will be? Perhaps Maine, VT, AZ, Nevada, and Florida.

    Minnesota looms too…

    I am getting way, WAY too caught up in this.

  242. Michigan is back!?! Must be a tech error, or maybe they could rent the Double J ranch where Rothbury is. If so its gonna be cold, cold, cold, cold, cold. 🙂

  243. well Fishman’s reflection on the pinball the other day…. he was wearing a viking set of horns on his head. “Minnie” Vikings anyone? Could be chilly up there tho’ Halloween.

  244. I think it will be a state where they haven’t played yet since they been back. Hey dynamo, if cali has a chance to float back then so does all the other states who have been eliminated.

  245. So brothers and sisters, I have yet to see Hawaii up here. Could you imagine it there. I dont think they would do that because of the cost to get there, however would be cool.

  246. Mr. Palmer.. to answer your thousand dollar question… its [email protected] … not that it matters anymore but… why were people thinking nj by the way? that makes no sense whatsoever. there’s absolutely no place they could throw a festi in oct/nov… or really during the summer either. some friends from back east put on a festi called “Evolve” up in sussex county, nj and thats usually the beginning of sept. and it seems really hard to pull off. there aren’t really any other major festivals in NJ… ever.. Logistics are too hard to pull off.

  247. JCouv~ i’m not saying cali is coming back. how would i know…but the way it was eliminated has left the possibility open. a blown up alaska or 9 darted states isn’t so easy to just bring back. ya dig.

  248. i was joking bout alaska.. cali is prolly somewhere in outer space rite now.. michigan came back, forgot how that state was eliminated, but its back. w

  249. Vegoose… VEGAS BABY!!!!! Sam Boyd has nothing booked for those dates… but would prefer Back to Big Cypress…

  250. vegas baby!!!!! JCouv, TX could work too, but I think with WSP and The Voodoo shows in New Orleans, I bet they stay away from that area. Phish would not screw WSP like that. I can see Big Cypress too. that place was cool for Y2K NYE, but the 15 hrs of traffic sucked after a 24 hr straight drive from Western MA.

    I dont see CA floating anywhere,why are people so hung up on Cali returning? Am I missing something?

  251. What does everyone think their favorite spot to see the festival would be? I think going to the desert would be pretty cook. In April i had the fortunate opportunity to drive from Maine to San Francisco with one my best friends and the desert was unreal. I think there would be something pretty amazing about seeing a phish festival out west.

    Which… a little off topic but i think that EVERYONE should try to drive across the country at least once. One of the most unbelievable trips i have ever taken. (especially hiking in the Grand Canyon which is quite possibly the most amazing thing i have seen in my entire life).

    🙂

  252. good point zig zag with WSP being in new orleans. they are also playin in austin on oct 30 and 31.. but you never know, there is still a chance they can play in texas..

  253. You may Quote Me, right or wrong, the day we all know…

    ” I, Mr Poster’sNutBag…lol, shall see you at the Big Cypress Seminol Reserve on Halloween, with a ticket stub in your hand.”

    I am sure of it! I can’t wait!!!!

  254. Check out my facebook page… “Save the Date: A Halloween Phish Festival”

    We bring this convo to facebook!

  255. still hearing Indio, CA. 8 sets over three nights. not going to be a phish only festival. expect other bands to be performing as well…….

    delaware is still there, though….

  256. the thing about vegas is that there is no where to camp plus they have already played halloween there

  257. i am trying to locate a picture of the vanna white cyclops squid alien….anybody know where I can located it at this point? a good high res pic would be ideal.

  258. Pinball and now darts. Seems like we might have something of a gaming theme developing here. If there is any meaning for the location this would definitely seem to lean towards Nevada.

    I wonder if they will tie any of the individual animations into the festival? Maybe have a bunch of beachballs that are all silver like the pinball, or maybe setup a huge map on the grounds and some kind of foam lawn darts to bounce around the crowd.

  259. where ever the location is I say we all meet at 4:20 the second day and puff a phattie…… Still hoping for Vegas. I do agree limited camping that we know of, plenty of desert around though… Big Cypress was great years ago, so that is also a good choice too. Any way my brothers and sisters we are only days away form the answer!!! Still waiting for my mail order (ahhhhh)

  260. Not sure why people were thinking Jersey. I had mentioned I was FROM Jersey, but I said it would definately NOT be here. Not the kinda state for a festival, and to be quite honest, I wouldn’t want it here anyway, I need to get out of this damn state…take me far away!!!!

  261. I think the game theme might be going somewhere… But Vegas is too easy… Think about it.. Gaming=Casinos=Indians=Reservations=Seminoles=Big Cypress!

    Anyway… I’m trying to get some people on my facebook page… its called “Save the Date: A Halloween Phish Festival”

    So help me to look cool in front of my friends and join up!

  262. Washington just got dumped back on the map!!!! Thats my state homies!!

    Now we know for sure though, that they are definitely messing with us. Weatherwise, there is some desert here and it wouldn’t necessarily be too cold at all for a Halloween show. But it does get really really cold at night there even in the summer (40s during Sasquatch)

    BUT I am sure that they are just showing us that they are fucking with our minds. I doubt it will be here, though the gorge would be perfect.

    either way, I will buy all you guys a beer of your choosing and we can meet up at the fest and drink them!

  263. Do you guys agree w. me? Do you think it will be here in WA? or are they JUST BEGINNING to fuck with our heads?

    sorry but I am just so pumped now that WA is back.

  264. Oh yea, I have lived in WA state since 2001, The Gorge kicks ass, but is also cold that time of year. My guess is they are fucking w/ us…..

  265. I love it. This means Indio is back in the game as much as anywhere. You know they are totally messing with us, and enjoying every minute of it.

  266. hey everyone, just relax…we’re going to announce the show soon…and yes, reading all your post makes the “save the date” page fun…see ya all in cow country…peace, gordo

  267. the boys are definitely messing with our heads. They are playin at the Gorge in a few wks, meaning they prolly won’t return back there in Late October. They need to spread their love around the country and come play in the south.. Tx or FL. Nevada took a scare.. Still alive tho..

  268. I love how Mike Gordon spelled his name “Gordan” just for us. What a creative and interesting guy…

  269. Hello everyone,
    I know that you are all waiting and eagerly anticipating the venue announcement, but you will have to wait a little longer. All I can say is that it will be warm and dusty!

  270. I don’t know but mn seems all alone. I hope they will play a show there but a festival would be too cold. Maybe the states left will be a fall/winter tour in addition to the festival.

  271. That was AWESOME!!!

    I guess that just blows some of your theories that once a state is gone… it’s gone. What now 🙂

    Wherever it is hit me up and I’ll see you there!

    Anyone have extra Gorge tix? Me and my wife are doing a west coast trip for our honeymoon…
    Email me, I have an email link on my wannabe temporary site. Thnx

  272. Sphector. Its not much, but I currently have one extra Gorge second night.

    I am SURE you will be able to get tickets in the lot. Only shows I was at for first leg were Fenway and Jones Beach (Night one); I got 5 tickets for 25 a piece in the lot at jones beach, and at fenway I already had my tix, but people couldn’t give em away!

    good luck and let me know if you need my night 2.

  273. most important band of the nineties is…. Phish by a long shot.. The fab four… Just like say, their would never be antother Lennon…. There will never be another Anastasio….

  274. Page says… “warm and dusty”
    Mike says… “see you in cow country”
    Vimeo Phish Late Summer 2009 video… focuses on Texas when there are NO texas dates… hmmm… AUSTIN TX ANYONE?? BUELLER??

  275. Hi all,

    Warm and windy and cow country ehh I can’t take anymore I need to buy a ticket if it is not on the east coast. I am sure it won’t be but The guys are smart keeping us guessing I just hope the tix for the show are not too high.$200 is a fair price as long as it covers their expenses and makes them the profit they need to keep going the way they are. That is why I love phish they keep there prices fair. How can anyone argue about $49.50. They are just keeping up with inflation. Plus November 1st is my 30th bday so boys you can send me a ticket if you want! Phish has always kept me so entertained since I was 15 that it would be very hard not to go to this for me. My mom is even checking the site with excitement and all she knows about phish is that they aren’t welcomed back here in Lake Placid, NY which even she the republican thinks is redic! I love you all thanks for keeping this exciting with me

  276. I have not been able to go to ANY shows this tour. I had tickets to all 3 Hampton shows but had to give them to a friend because my 3 year had to get ear tubes put in. I CAN’T wait until this festival…wherever it may be…I haven’t been to a show since muddy Coventry!

  277. they won’t play in austin tx.. WSP is playin there oct 30-31.. i have my fingers crossed for sumwhere in tx tho, just not in austin.

  278. I have one more theory and that is this:

    Its a Halloween festival. 10/30-11/1. Not in the middle of August. It has the potential to be way smaller than previous festivals. Why? High schoolers and College kids will be way less prevalent because duh– they are in school. I was a student of some sort at every other festival, and if I were a student right now, it would be a huuuuge pain to go. All I have to do now is take 3 days off work…

    So the 30k idea actually makes a good bit of sense. I actually would love an intimate festie. I could be wrong and it may be ginormous, and I would love that too. Apples and Oranges I guess.

  279. I just love how people here seem to know someone important. Weekapaug Says “they have been offered a job, know the promoter, and has a count of 30k RV’s.” Okay time to lay off the Nitros and come back to Earth. It is not going to be Cali!!!! The reappearence of WA.state is a joke. I live in Seattle, and by late Oct,early Nov. the Gorge is closed for the winter. The pass going over the Cascades is filled with snow, and just way too cold,wet for an outdoors camping event. What I do know is that the Easter Bunny said to Kermit the Frog that Big Cypress looks good because of all the lilly pads available. So since the Easter Bunny is about reliable as any other posting of RUMORS,we should just have fun, and hope for Vegas.

    I did see one posting out there that said for the album cover: Born in the USA!!!! Seems very fitting with the map of the states and the jam at Bonnaroo with the Boss!!! That would be cool

  280. I think Florida is highly unlikely. Recall that Langerado was cancelled this year. I know Phish is a much bigger deal, but still, it’s the same crowd. With the economy the way it is, Florida might as well be the moon. It’s just way too far for very many to get to. I know, one could say the same thing about Maine fests, but NE is their home turf. There aren’t enough Florida phans to support a big fest. Also, there are no casinos or gambling facilities at Big Cypress.

  281. Ok so I need therapy- Im going a little crazy waiting for where the festivas is going to be!
    COME ON SOUTHERN STATES!!!!!!

  282. Dusty and warm, cow country? Sounds like a Texas show to me, and why not a Widespread album, since they’ll be right down the road?

  283. zig zag:
    The re-emergence of WA was not to trick people into thinking the festival will be held there, rather to send the message that any state has the potential to be “re-filled”. I dont think this is the last of the “re-filling” of states.

  284. ANy new rumors floating around? Washington is back on the map, which makes me think Indio is a possibility. Any thoughts?

  285. there’s a possibility of cali comin back but highly unlikely… WA did light back up but remember the gorge in a few wks.. so prolly not there either..

  286. Carry the Zero Says –

    OMG – I’m a pretty smart guy, and did not think of the fact that a good chunk of Phish’s phan base will be in school for this festival!!!! This is a very good point, and not to be over looked! Good thinking! Now i am more confused than ever! I need medication!

  287. I will be in my last semester of school, and I won’t miss this for the world!! there will be way more people than 30k…..suspense is killing me

  288. A festival is outside, no? Has anyone been to an indoor festival? This rules out Maine and Minnesota and any other states that people keep referencing, right? Am I missing something?

  289. Ok, here’s the deal. Yes, the festival was supposed to be in Indio. That is true. But two weeks ago, Phish received a call from the estate of Jimi Hendrix. This summer is the 40th anniversary of Woodstock, and they thought it would be a fitting tribute to Jimi to have Phish cover the exact set that he played.

    The plan was for this festival to be in Indio, but Jimi’s brother Leon got into some legal problems and he’s currently unable to leave Washington State. Phish really wanted him there for the set, so they reserved Husky Stadium as a backup plan. However, they were worried about the weather and the chance that fans would get rained on.

    What they wanted to do was to play Safeco Field and close the roof, but the Mariners have been playing too well and there was a chance that the stadium would be in use. The recent slide in the standings made Phish pretty confident that they will be able to move the show come October. So the plan is that the event will be released on Monday as a 3 show festival at Husky Stadium, but the contracts have been signed so in mid-September, the shows can be moved when the Mariners get eliminated.

  290. They need to announce the location/dates of the fall tour soon per normal, so I don’t think many more states will re-appear. However, I’m now convinced that CA will appear. Possibly this image will tie in with the entire spring tour. I could see the whole thing going black soonish, then Fall dates reappearing one by one. < PURE SPECULATION

  291. I don’t think a festival has to be outside per se… Maine does not have the facilities for an indoor show of that scale (Augusta and Portland would crumble).

    Was there camping at Vegoose? Plenty of festivals occur these days without camping…

    I was skeptical that the world series could be a consideration for the Mariners stadium, but apparently it’s not scheduled to START until Oct. 28.

    Finally, I bet announcement will come prior to Summer X2, because of the chance of it leaking (like many insist the initial Indio rumor did).

  292. OK, one last note: Someone said that WV had reappeared… I just watched the animation, and Tennessee was still illuminated. Didn’t do a screen capture (D’oh)!

  293. Trust us, I live in Seattle and dont see them playing either of those stadiums, No places to camp!!!! Also yes Seattle is the Home of Jimi, his celebrations are always around Thanksgiving, not Halloween. Well I do hope you are right, nothing like seeing a phish festival in my backyard, I could even go home everynight, sleep in my own bed, and do it all again the next day. So I do hope you are correct, even though I want Vegas!!

  294. Sorry to Burst Bubs… But, No Fall Tour!

    Mike is on tour from 9/8 to 10/something solid, and Trey has a project with an orchestra in New York. (unless the Festival is the beginning of a late fall tour in November…)

  295. I laugh every time I read these new comments. They really make my day.

    @Carry the Zero
    Thanks for the offer, yes I am interested. I put my contact info on my link.

    No new eliminations/additions today… uuuggghhh…

  296. It’s going to be WA state. The latest animation shows a rocket drop off a bus and the bus backs into the state and dumps it’s “yellow” load there, after the state was blacked out.

  297. a rocket ship and a bus? try a boat and a dump truck. what are you smoking and where can i get some?

  298. Um, yeah… the animation that put back WA has been up since Saturday morning (4 days). Just another twist from the band, but doubtful that its the final destination. Washington sees something like 40″ of rain per year. They average 18 rainy days in November with an average high of 50 degrees. Not sure it’s the best place for a late fall festival….

    My money is on Indio.

  299. I definitely think the whole Save-the-date title has to do with dates( the food) and that def points towards Cali- if your state isn’t known for dates then don’t hold your breath.

  300. I’ll tell you what; it wouldn’t be too cold for me to camp in October/Nov in upstate NY if it meant a three set day of Phish on Halloween! I know a shit ton of people that would do it too! Everyone knows Phish festivals belong on the East Coast anyway.

  301. I am on of the shit ton of folks “pcdiggy” speaks of, and would gladly wear a coat and hat and camp in the cold. NY. or VT. or even ME. are way close to me… BUT if the festival stays east coast, AND IT WILL, it will be in FLA.

    I stick to my guns when I said over a week ago that you may quote me on this

    “I will see you at the Big Cypress Seminol Reserve on Halloween with a ticket Stub in your hand”! I am sure of it! I can’t wait!

  302. I just dont see phish making people get hotel rooms. And that would have to happen in Seattle that time of year. I have been a resident of Seattle since 2001 and its cold and rainy that time of year, so I really dont see them there. Places like Vegas, AZ, FL provide the privacy we deserve, as well as plenty of camping. So as much as Seattle would be great, I dont think so!!!

    Where the heck is my mail order?????????????

  303. zig zag & Mr. Palmer…

    I also have not yet received my mail orders, or an e-mail confirming their shippment. I though they were supposed to shit last week…..

  304. I just spoke with the organizers and people in charge of Balloon Fiesta Park in Albuquerque, NM and asked if it was possible to rent the park at the end of October and first couple days of November and was told that it is booked for that period for a large “rock concert” festival! I asked who was playing and was told that she was unable to reveal the name of “the band” at this time.

    http://www.cabq.gov/parks/pdf/3ParkInfoFlyer2006FINAL.pdf

    http://www.balloonfiesta.com/

    It makes sense. It’s the perfect area, perfect weather and it’s soon after the Balloon Fiesta, so Phish can still have plenty of balloons in the sky to entertain us and to glow into the night…

  305. Yup. I heard the same thing from a couple of guys that work at their production office. It’s a badass location and will be perfect for camping. Beautiful area too and close to town. ALBUQUERQUE!!! I got time to roll a number and rent a car…

  306. Yeah & Trey was just here puffing a fatty with me, and he said you don’t sh_t, and niether does anyone else!

  307. I recently connected with some old friends via facebook. We grew up in the Albuquerque area. One of the guys is kind of a townee and works for parks and rec.

    Bottom line is, I don’t know if he knows who Phish is, but there is a “some huge concert thing” over Halloween. His side business is doing clean-up.

    Contracts have been SIGNED.

  308. It’s true. I actually knew this inside information because I’m a friend of Mayor Marty (Albuquerque’s Mayor). The secret is out! The Indio thing is totally fooling everyone!

  309. Anyone who says Phish festivals belong on the East Coast is selfish. That’s like saying that b/c the Grateful Dead was from Cali, they should never have play multiple shows in any towns East of the Mississippi. Let the West Coast get some love!

  310. I love the New Mex idea, that would be so cool, nobody to bother us! That is warm and dusty and certainly cow country.
    -Col. Forbin, I agree pcdiggy is being totally selfish, im from
    east coast and he doesn’t represent the eastcoast at all, I’m all for west coast festival b/c they never did west coast festival before and that would be the shit for Halloween,! It’s all about sharing in the groove’!

  311. It’s true. I’ve got a friend in Las Cruces, NM that’s really good friends with Fishman. She said they picked Albuquerque as the spot because the recent Rainbow Gathering went over really well. The area totally embraced all the hippies flooding Cuba, NM and they pulled it off without incident.

    The city is fairly liberal and in most places in New Mexico, the people are very accepting of anyone and everyone, no matter what they may be like. I think it’s going to be one of the best festivals yet and NM is the perfect place for it! Bring New Mexico back to the map, Phish!

  312. As far as the new mexico theory, if u check the map new mexico was already taken off the map. its possible it could return but i doubt it Big Cypress all the way!!!

  313. No, it’s true. My best friend’s wife works for the IT/Graphic Design team for Phish. I guess, in the end, a bunch of rain clouds are going to pass over the country. Rain drops will fall on the remaining colored states, slowly blotting them out…finally, a giant lighting bolt will strike Albuquerque and the state will light up.

    California returns, being carried by balloons, but it gets dropped into the Pacific Ocean and the balloons return to Albuquerque. She said the whole thing is already worked out and will be revealed by the end of next week.

  314. What is so funny is each day someone writes how they have this contact and have been told that contracts are signed, rv’s reserved, and porta potties rented. One day its in Indio, the next its AZ, then Seattle, and now New Mexico. A staff member of phish leaked out the information, yea B.S!!!!!!! Just another hoax “buck” but nice try…. Why doesn’t everyone just keep up the good possibilities, and stop the rumor mill.. Still waiting for my mail order and a fed ex email. This is starting to scare me, I need to leave for Red Rocks soon, I am driving across country and the shows are next week…..

  315. you guys are ridiculous.. new mexico now? hahah stop speculating. Phish would never leak any of the info out (unless all you people who know people are telling the truth and Phish purposely leaked fake info out to fool all of you). But, either way, you guys will never pull one over on Phish. It will be somewhere we didn’t even think of.. This is what they do best, the art of surprise.

  316. it’s all about the speculation Hydrogen!-. Nobody stop speculating that’s why I love this chat/blog. New Mexico would be an awesome suprise nobody has called NM til now, (not saying it’s gonna be there but it would be cool)
    Until they officially release the location everyone has free reign to speculate!

  317. Thanks for the sililoquy I Am Hydrogen. What all you haters don’t understand, is that the speculation is fun, and helps most of us get through our work day. Stop trying to rain on our parade.

  318. I am just glad Trey has cleaned up and the band is on tour again. This is where they belong, on the road playing great music and keeping us on our musical toes… location and album are gravy or icing if you prefer.

  319. Phish should play where ever their lil hearts desire. I live in the Adirondacks in upstate NY and I hope it is here. Cold and maybe a lil snowy but be tough wear a hat and a warm coat! But I agree it should be any where not just the east coast but NY would be fine with me! Just tell me and give me my mail order already!

  320. Lottery Tickets….

    Glad to hear that I am not the only one who hasn’t received a shipping confirmation e mail from FED EX yet for my lottery tickets. I will be fine as I won’t be at a show until the final leg of the summer tour, but I really feel for all of you who are going to Red Rocks and still haven’t seen your tickets!!! I will keep my fingers crossed for all of you, and I really, really wish I could be going with you? Have fun guys… can’t wait to see the set lists!

  321. so i just saw an animation where all the states were taken out and cali was put back in but now its gone??!!!!!????? now its back to the damn truck!!!! wtf???

  322. Nah, I’ve got a friend of a friend on the inside. It’s not over. Tomorrow or the next day, the map will change. Book your rooms in Albuquerque. Take the next balloon flight out and get ready for some fun…

  323. There’s a reason they didn’t provide any details. Phish doesn’t give out a secret like this that easily. Wait and see. It’s not going to be in Cali. Tomorrow we’ll know the truth. That damn truck will be back.

  324. Huh. The first time I did it, all the states went away except for California. Second time, California and Alabama stayed yellow. Third time, California and North Dakota stayed yellow. Fourth time, California and Tennessee stayed yellow. I’m afraid to say, this thing is far from over…

  325. The way CA just sits there with no info kind of dissapoints me. I was hopping it would come back but looks like it’s still open game.

    Phish is still messing with us, and my computer keeps freezing through the animations!!!

  326. Ahhh, but could it be my friends?

    I was gonna copy and paste all the “CA gone guys, face it, it isn’t coming back” posts, but it’s too much work. I think you all get the idea.

  327. All I see is Cali left now… I was hoping it’d be somewhere on the East coast but looks like those Indio rumors may be true.

  328. it’s not over folks that haven’t announced anything official about the location, they’re not gonna just end the map with one state remaining without telling us the exact location, it will change again, and yes phish can remove states and then bring them back! Learn About It! It’s not that hard of an idea to grasp people, there are no rules that govern what they can or cannot do with this map, it’s PHiSH!

  329. It’s interesting to read all the previous comments to see how many people had inside information. Kudos to the Wounded Messenger for nailing it before the map even went live.

  330. Looking like I Will be eating my “Quote ME” with a nice plate of Crow…. Ha Ha Ha…

    Well if it is indeed in Cali. I may have to miss out on this one…. As disappointed as I will be for myself, I will happy for those of you on the left coast that can easily make it…. You guys have waited long enough! Something tells me that this is game is very close to over, with the whole… “Ahhhhhhhhh” thing in the background when California reappeared, and that the details will be posted on the website before the day is through. I just hope for the sake of everyone who can make it, that the festy is held somewhere close to Indio, but NOT IN IT!

    I was sooooo convinced that Big Cypress was the place…. Some folks very very close to Phish in Burlington, VT. assured Big Cypress… These guys knew about the Hampton Reunion long before it was announced, and we wrote them off, they knew about Red Rocks, and we wrote them off, so this time I was like… Okay evidently they know what they’re talking about. I guess they could have playing along It’s not over yet, but I get the feeling it will be very soon…..

    It just goes to show that you can believe none of what you hear and half of what you see!

    Craziness!

  331. i have a feeling that they are screwing with us just bc they way they left it but i dont know anything anymore…im going to be very disappointed if its n cali bc i just dont think i have the funds:(

  332. What is going on???? They are just having a field day messing with us> However, it is so much fun. I am sad to see Vegas be removed. I was so hoping for a trick or treat party in Sin City oh well. I think its in Cali now, even though I think Indio is not a good place for 70k phish heads. Anyway where the hell is my mail order???????

  333. Has everyone completely forgot about Hawaii? Yes, it is not shown, but neither is Alaska, which they did eliminate. It’s definitely not over!

  334. Mr. Palmer – you said it all!! GREAT QUOTE to site for this whole deal!

    Haywood Jablome – I DID forget about Hawaii…. here we go again!

    Has ANYONE received their mail orders yet?????

  335. i know that this game might not be over, but i think it is. i think the whole vocal jam moment says it all. and what a mean tease it would be to the cali phans who rightfully feel that this festi is in a way their payback for years of travelling to the east. i’m from boston and have no inside info, but i think we’ll be getting our cali itinerary pretty soon. let’s just hope it’s not indio. and if it is, let’s just hope that they take our money, close their eyes, open up their land, and let us do our thing. i’ll see you all whereever it is. happy halloween!

  336. During the animation, the drill goes straight through CA but it looks like it gets stuck for a second in Northern CA around Redding or Chico, and then finally makes it through to WA.

    Does anyone think this thing might happen in Northern Cali? Any insight or ideas would be great.

  337. The balloons that took cali away are going to return at the end with New Mexico. No one is even thinking New Mexico, but I believe this is where it will happen. Either way: see you all there.

  338. I’m with Chad. I have no doubt it will be New Mexico. Balloon Fiesta Park in Albuquerque has already been secured that weekend. I don’t know anyone on the inside with the Phish camp, but word travels fast around NM. Sorry, Calif folks, but New Mexico isn’t that far to travel!

  339. don’t think it’s over yet, fellas. hey for the gorge — this will be my first time. have options to camp at wildhorse or the amphitheater campground. anyone with any insight either way, can you hit me up at [email protected]? thanks.

  340. i’m definitely hoping for norcal. there’s quincy where high sierra is, not sure how many people the grounds could hold though…then there’s wavy gravy’s hog farm…yosemite would be sweet but there’s already a halloween festie there

  341. It’s a done deal. Mark my words, Indio is the venue. Don’t doubt the All Knowing Head.

  342. Indio. The only festival in the world for dates meaning the fruit. The festival is called save the Date. My bets on Indio.

    Peace Love and Happiness from PA oh and SAVE THE REEF TO HOMIES

  343. In case you are geographically retarded Palm Desert is right by Indio meaning the venue is Polo Grounds.

  344. I was not you I was referring to Dalton. La Quinta is the only thing that stands between PD and Indio. 🙂

  345. It was not you I was referring to Dalton. La Quinta is the only thing that stands between PD and Indio. 🙂

  346. Why do some of u still doubt california? Its done. They just haven’t given details yet. Were u watching the animation without sound? That was a finale.Isn’t that the ending to Rift? I know its off the rift album. I am mixing songs up in my head and I can’t straighten them out.The bottom line is, the states’ leraving and going are done. The details will follow shortly. Relax. I am just as obsessed with this as anyone, and I hate for it to be over, but come on! It is in california. Forget hawaii. Alaska came down b/c of the new song. We r stretching this way too far out. And I believe it is because we have been without our boys for so long. We need the games again. I’m not coming down on anyone, I’m just venting a little. Cali is it. And I’m from GA, and won’t be traveling for it (I put all my cookies into chicago when I found a couple of tix). So I’m not biased where it is. I’m just looking at the animation from a logical point of view. A finale, complete with applause and a phisy ending! What more do u want? a shave and a haircut? 🙂

  347. Word sorry about that AKH. I live in Buffalo but am relieved to see the fest in SoCal. I have friends out there who I can’t wait to see. Lived in Ft. Ladi for three years tho and am def. hoping for Big Cyprus new years that will be a party.

  348. See in Cali! Congrats west coast kids it is well deserved. Us east coast kids are spoiled and just expect it to be on the right side but I will see you all there and congrats on the west coast its my 30 bday and I have never been west of vegas!

  349. Oh yes, almost forgot, I’d like to thank Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny for making this all possible. 🙂

    Just had to do it…

    Sorry to the guys that cant make the trip do to distance. I was in the same boat. If it happened to be on the east coast I wouldn’t have been able to go…

  350. I hoped for Vegas but will take CA!!!! Are any of you still waiting for summer mail order?

    See you all in Cali!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Look for me in my zig zag shirt and we will get down with the real Seattle’s Finest!!!

  351. been sayin its indio from the start!!! all you who thought it was indio are in the know and you that didn’t……………aren’t in the LOOP. that bein said, hope to see everyone there!!!!!! the only way to get into the LOOP is to see as many shows as possible!!!!!! indio will by my 130th-132nd shows!!! WHAT A TRIPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!! happy trails to everyone and you know we will be kickin it with the twenty five. like pb&j…………

    safe travels to everyone who decides to go and i wish everyone three grate shows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    but gotta get ready for the GORGE first!!!!!! sickestever

    be there or be not there~

  352. no way i’m missing this festival, I’m from the east coast, time to pony up boys and girls; first three day festy! Halloween! !!!!

  353. it crazy that its indio,ca so many back and fourth; rite at the end i thought it was albuquerque,MN; anyone else?

  354. Jcov, I doubt they will sell out that fast, not with a fall tour around the corner. I bet 60-65k of us partying. I will be there getting my ticke and camping tomorrow morning online. They fall tour should be announced soon and those tickets will go on sale/lottery as well.

    Album TO COVER: Born in the USA or Thriller.

  355. JCouv— I bet fall tour is mid-late October. I have seen rumors of it starting before the new festival and having it end out west. I have heard Albany, NY, Boston, MSG, Philly, Wash. DC, some mid west dates, into Denver, then ending in L.A and Fest.8. However, I dont know for sure. SOmewhere I saw a posting with those. But be sure fall tour will happen. So dont go broke at the festival people….

  356. Hey beautiful people i just got my tickets. It was the easiest ticket experience ever for a phish show. I was done in 6 minutes. I am flying from Burlington VT to Vegas then driving the 4 plus hours to indio through the desert. I can’t wait to see you all there. Honestly i have been to over 60 shows and this one excites me just as much as big cypress. We should all set a day and meet and chill out if you know what I mean. Its been fun following this with all of you. I didnt post often but you are all great. SEE YOU ON THE 29TH I WILL BE THERE A DAY EARLY! You should too because as we al know traffic sucks no matter where the location is!

  357. JCouv— I keep hearing Miami, but I see them in NYC or Boston if you ask me. The warm weather means nothing to them since it isn’t a festival like Big Cypress was on NYE 2000. I think they could do Miami, dont know anything offical, except MSG is vacant on those days

  358. I have never been to a Phish Festival and would consider myself a “casual” fan. My question is I have the opportunity to go to Indio and I wanted to be sure it would be worth the money…I live on the East Coast so there are also traveling expenses…So what do you all think??

  359. hey Never been— Any Phish show will be amazing, festivals are awesome as well. I am not a big fan of where the festival is taking place, so many awesome places in the great state of CA, but Indio sucks. A very wealthy area, and I domnt see them taking a liking to us after day one. My guess is the police will be having check points after the show for those not camping, and the also I bet they will be all over the surrounding towns.However, keep to yourself and stay out of trouble and it will be a time to remember. Every festival I have been to was awesome except Conventry, that just suck ass!!!! And not just because it was their last show. If you ask me save your cash since you are an east coaster and wait for fall tour to be announced. If money is not an issue then you should fly out. Rck on brother or sister and what ever you do, take care of your shoes!!!

  360. Never been- First, I gotta say that rain and all, Coventry was a STELLAR time for all those who know how to take on festivals in stride. The indio experience might be an interesting one, but the possibility of check-points and a negative local response is NO reason to skip out on a festival, unless maybe you’re hellbent on unloading multiple nitrous tanks. Obviously if money is an issue, then that’s understandable, but there is physically no better way to see phish than at a festival- and you really get your money’s worth. i say GO! save money and camp out. you will most likely regret not going, but you DEFINIELTY will not regret going. and my guess is after the weekend you will be a “casual” fan no more.

  361. Hey Geasy freak, what are you 18, got mommy to buy your ticket, pay your hotel I have been to all the festivals and if you have you would see all locations are nothing like Indio. My guess is you are just a rookie at this and happy it is in your home town so you dont have to ask mommy to take you to the airport and buy you a plane ticket. Chill out, it is the hostile people like you who always seem to destroy the fun of a phish fest. You and I both know it huh!!!!

  362. Any idea for a female costume? I got my costume picked out but my girlfriend needs one… All I can think of is Millie Grace with pocks on her face or Tela… but who the hell would want to be Tela yuck!

  363. Poster is back after a short hiatus freak out session tring to figure out where the hell he will come up for the funds for this one….. SEE YOU IN CALI! I GOT MY CAMPING TICKET! Step One Done! Now to get save some more money. & QUICK!

    EAST COASTERS…. BETTER REPRESENT AT THIS PHIESTIVAL!!!! I KNOW THE WEST HAS COME OUR WAY MORE THAN ONCE!

    NeverBeen – Going the Phestie from CT. Gonna cost around $950.00 out the door total cost. (who likes paying bills anyway?!?!?!)My Last Hura! Worth every penny!

    I worry a bit about the reputation of the security at this venue as well as some of you seem to be, but mostly because I must fly to this gig, and can’t really bring anything along… if you know what I mean. The locals should have plenty of goods to go around though. So far the guidlines are the same as every other festival Phish has put on, with the exception that camping is limited. It is deff. a MUCH more populated spot BY FAR, than any other Phish Festivals. It’s not the people of Cali that I worry about, or weather or not they accept me/us. Who gives a shit, we will be gone in four days… I am worried about the possobility of Johnny Law spoiling all of our fun, do the close proximity to exclusive resorts, and big money.

    Best way around all of that CAMP… Once your in… Your in… There will be FAR LESS Police Presents, and Trouble for folks who opt to camp. They will not care about what you are doing so much if the general public doesn’t know you are doing it. Puffing Fatties in a Hotel Parking Lot, and cruising down Main St with a bong between you lap will end your trip right quick. Once you are in the camp grounds… If you have any trouble what so ever…. well….. You’re an idiot.

    I Promise It Will Be Fun!

  364. Whoa.. Poster is Tired and not typing very well tonight!

    Kyle – I had mentioned that we should all meet up Friday night by the message board or ferris wheel before the first set with T-shirts with our screen names on them to puff on a fat one together. We could all donate and toss a big ass salad! Peeps were down.

    I am gonna carve me up some Jack-O-Lanterns the first night for my camping spot. That will be sweet!

  365. ZIG ZAG as thoughtful as your response was the last I will say is that I have been to every festival they have put on and many other shows as well. I actually enjoyed Coventry even with the trek in and out. Im from the Northeast. I will be camping at this fest because thats the only way to do this in my humble opinion and I am chill. Im not hostile, just tired of spoiled children complaining. Ive been around too long to let that get me down though. I trust the boys that they know more about this location than you or me and that just because its in the middle of a town doesnt make it a bad thing. It just may be a pretty cool thing. If its good enough for them its good enough for me. So go back to b!tching and moaning about Indio and just make sure you throw a post up here on Nov 2nd and tell everyone how wrong you were! Have some faith!

  366. GreasyFizeak I am just going to say lets 4:20!! I am just too old to be arguing over a stupid reply you made. Its all about having fun, listening to music and chillin with friends and strangers. You cant call me an idiot because of my opinion. If so that only shows a person being closed minded. Yes Cali is awesome, I am a west coaster and have been there plenty of times. So to clear the air lets 4:20 at the fest, and let all of this be water under the bridge. I know the Polo grounds are awesome, I saw Cochella a fews back, but I also know places like Limestone, Oswego, Big Cyprus, etc are a much better place than the Polo Grounds. I am not knocking CA, just the location of the fest. So can we now get along and start wishing for our vote on which album they will play?? Come on brother, life is too short for stress, and I just bought my ticket and camping pass so I am excited.

    Hey Poster, I just got an email from Fed Ex. Mail orders are in Virgina somewhere, should arrive tomorrow to Seattle for me.. I am sure you’ll get your email today too. 🙂

    As for an album to cover, my guess is either Thriller by MJ, or Born in the USA by Bruce!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rock on everyone…

    mY TWO

  367. Thanks everyone for your replies. I purchased my tickets and camping pass so I guess I will see you all in California!! I will be NeverBeen no more!

  368. Finally some clearheadded posts on this board i LOVE it. Never been- I am truly giddy for you, you’re gonna have a sick time. And let’s all drop the stress huh? We’re talking about a phish festival here, life is gonna be good. Period. Last halloween I went to a shitty costume party at a local dancehall and had a BLAST. So I’m really not worried about it. Also, is anyone shocked that camping passes are still available?? I bought my tic right at 1 b/c I thought I was gonna have an issue. Are people actually opting to stay in luxury resorts instead of campng? Bizarre to me, but I guess to each his own. See you all there. I’m the one with a giant jar of fluff on her head(:

  369. Hey Zig zag, i hope they will still have tix available by friday… had to pay some bills last week, but now i will have the mula by friday…

  370. JCouv— I am more than sure they will have tickets for you. If they run out of camping, I will put you in my car. I am driving in from Seattle so I will meet up with you outside if needed. I too am broke, I put the whole thing on a credit card, I will be kicking myself in the butt for that one on Nov 2 when its all over for doing that.. But for now, Oh yea!!!! Rock on brother, you’ll get a ticket I just know it!!!!

  371. Yo Yo Ziggy Zaggy!!! I’ve GOT THEM IN HAND!!!! Woooo HOOO!! I’m hoping you do too!

    Are you going to Hartford, or Spac???

    If not we MUST get up in Cali!

  372. Never Been: Don’t listen to all the negative bs on here. It will be worth every cent. I live in te adirondacks and i am flying from VT to vegas tix were 275 and renting a car. I ave been to every festival except the went and everything was great once you got inside. Go Early Thursday so traffic isnt a problem bring a tent and all types of clothes and you will have fun even as a casual fan because the 31st will be the most vestive halloween you have ever seen. Just imagine 60 to 70k dressed up and from what I hear the site is amazing. I say GO if you need a ride in I have a camping pass and only 2 in my car so we have room if you want.

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  374. Yo guys… I’m pretty sure that Halloween is going to be in New Mexico this year… They are trying to trick you with california… you’ll be sorry if you go there

  375. Yeah, it’s true. It’s actually going to be in Albuquerque. Turns out this is just one giant bait and switch to discourage scalpers. The Save the Date map is going to reappear two nights before the show and everything will change. Cancel your flights! Rebook your hotel rooms! New Mexico here we come!

  376. what kind of weirdness can we expect? have there been any indication of how this festival will run or what kind of spectacles will be there? In past festivals have they released any kind of program showing whats going on before the show? i imagine that you just walk in and get surprised.

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